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Gavin Newsom's an establishment politician first and anything else second.
He's vetoed trans protections, sold out unions and appeared on a far right podcast to showcase his anti trans views.
For now he's an opponent of fascism, but his interests are not the interests of the American people. He'll gladly sell us out if it benefits his career.
Big tent comrade. Some of us fart in our sleep, but we either climb in this thing together or else we both sleep in our own separate cardboard boxes.
"We must assuredly all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."
These leftist kids today aren't getting it, but this is the only message that matters. If anyone is upset by this, feel free to craft a coherent argument.
Yes, climb into the box with all the people willing to sell minority rights away to appeal to fascists. Like, "Hey you guys hate queer people right? Well, we actually will tolerate that over here! If you guys want to implement politics intended to drive trans kids to kill themselves, hey thats totally fine we would be willing to do that if you vote for us!"
This is the box youre asking trans people to climb into?
One side isn't supporting me and voted for some things that are harmful for me. The other side wants to put me in an extermination camp.
I can't decide these are the same
Gavin literally had Charlie Kirk on his podcast, to tell Charlie that he agrees with him about trans rights. Charlie Kirk. Gavin Newsome should not run for president. There are better democrats who haven't bonded with a genocidal white supremacist over hatred of queer people.
I absolutely agree with you there. I have a long list of people I prefer. Newsome is in my mind is the choice one step above a republican, and that's just barely.
I hope we get someone decent through the primary. I detest our system, but until it changes the most moral thing I can do is pick harm reduction. I don't want to see anyone stripped of their rights. However, I also don't want to see anyone shipped off to death camps.
I can fight to restore rights to people, I can't fight to resurrect the dead.
Honestly after typing all this out revolution seems like the preferable thing at this point, but until then all I can do is pick harm reduction at the ballot box and fight for more.
I didn't see anyone in this thread say they are the same. I always find it quite telling how liberals have to make up points to argue against, instead of sticking to the points being made.
I would absolutely not define myself as a liberal. My ideal canidate has never been on the ballot. At this point I content myself with trying to prevent those that want death camps from getting power. When it comes to the available means at the ballot box choices are limited. That's by design of course, but it's foolish to not even try.
I'd say contextually my previous comment fits the discussion
What a strange way to invite me over. Get fucked. I'm building a palace in the ditch. It might be made of cardboard but you're welcome to come and it doesn't smell like shit.
You appear to be lost. Are you looking for the state CA or the country CA? If the country CA, your tent is up there ↗️ and has pancakes and mostly free healthcare.
You do have to share it with a Frenchman, however.
Canada also abuses MAID to kill off its disabled poor, which is a no for me.
Liberals love to tell leftists that we have to all fight together. Then the second it's feasible they'll stab Us in the back. That's like the last 300 years of human history in a nutshell.
You can't just go and make a better path yourself, you must embrace sleeping in shit and feeling it's warmth or else what did I spend all my time doing it for?
He also has waged a huge war on homeless people while his people become homeless from fires, mudslides, etc. Homelessness is genocide. He is for genocide. He is not a good person and is below the standard for basic human decency. We deserve non-genocidal people.
Thank you! Someone else who gets that he is still dogshit. He’s not liquid dogshit like republicans but he is still dogshit
Trans rights and human rights in general are not up for debate, put trans folx rights on the negotiating table and all of human rights will be there too. Whether you realize it or not they will all be there, so do not support anyone who is willing to throw my people under the bus.
And before anyone even tries to make the asinine argument of “don’t let good be the enemy of perfection”. How about you don’t let good be corrupted by evil? Take the bad apples out before they spoil the bunch!
Gavin Newsom might say the right things sometimes but he has made it clear he is willing to toss away my people’s rights. He is flirting with the same dangerous ideology as the fascists.
If it's Newsom Vs. Vance, it might be the first time I stay home