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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 54 points 2 days ago (4 children)
  1. Trump and his goons are traitors
  2. A corporate takeover of the US has been planned for a long time
  3. We will not vote our way out of this
[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We will not vote our way out of this

Nope. That option disappeared on November 5, 2024.

You cannot allow fascists to have total control of a government and then expect to vote your way back to normality.

Lots of people are going to have to die to end this. And we'll probably go through a prolonged period of a decline of our quality of life before that happens. Then a prolonged period of recovery. And it could have easily been avoided if Americans had pulled their heads out of their asses and rubbed a couple brain cells together.

Buckle up kids.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Agreed, but this has been brewing for over 18 years. Today's MAGA were yesteryear's Tea Party members. They liked to wear funny "patriotic" hats and discuss conspiracy theory level politics. Easily guided and basically brainless, if you hold up a picture of a liberal they would run at it screaming profanities like some weird carrot on a stick. They ALMOST destroyed the Republican party with that craziness ... but the party just steered into it and now rides the wave.

[–] Postimo@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

It disappeared before 2024.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There has been a massive, multi-pronged assault on just our rights and our values, but our very attention-spans and cognitive capabilities to resist the corporate takeover.

Do ya'll really think that they're collecting your personal data to sell you targeted products you want?

They want to know what everyone's limits are, they want to know how much you pay attention, they want to know how much discomfort you will endure before you get mad, they want to know what placates you, they want to know what makes you feel good and comfortable so they can distill whatever that is and turn it into concentrated slop to keep you in your chair.

This isn't conspiracy, this is the same thing that's been to other countries by dictators and oligarchs in the past, usually with things like alcohol or drugs, but the modern world in America is much more complicated so they need a lot of people to click "agree" so they can find out what your weaknesses really are.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

A lot of people's limits are pretty much already reached. Some of us are old, tired, and just not that interested in keeping the greed machine running.

Your average Joe may not grab a rifle and run at the illegal National Guards that have been deployed or do a Luigi... but if those average Joe's happen to see someone else do somwthing like that it will be good odds that they won't remember what the person looked like or which way they ran after they did it.

[–] No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

child rapists. FIFY

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (4 children)

1 and 2 completely agree, but 3 is quitter talk. We don't need any of that.

[–] vogo13@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

Who said anything about quitting?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The last three elections had the highest voter turnout in recorded American history. This isn't a voting problem anymore, because our voting system, our very democratic process, has been compromised with social manipulation and leveraged against us.

We will not rush the polls and fix this.

We don't necessarily need to do an armed insurrection to fix this, but we have to get a LOT more active and a LOT more involved in our local leadership and representation, we have to argue a LOT more with our shitty uncle who gets all his news from Newsmax and nobody ever pushes back on him. We have to fight ICE in the streets and post it to social media and make resistance cool. We have to stop buying shit. Not a dumbass protest against a single company or product, just start saving your damn money and stop wasting it on games and booze and drugs. Seriously, take the money OUT of their hands. Start getting healthy, active and smart.

It will take generations to fix this, but it starts now with you getting up and walking somewhere and telling a total stranger "I can't believe how much we pay in taxes and they couldn't lower the price of groceries!" No wokescolding, no lectures, just do everything you can to make people mad at the actual enemy, the corporations and the wealthy.

edit: to the three people triggered by the idea that we can't get out of this just by voting and telling people their shirts are problematic, you are the problem. You are ammunition for the orcs and monsters who have sabotaged us all. Get your priorities in order. Get off discord and get away from your polycule of shut-ins and ass-kissing introverts and get fucking busy. Phone-bank, march, throw a sandwich at an ICE agent, just stop thinking you can intellectualize your way out of this. Nobody is coming. This is on YOU.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pick up a history book.

You don't vote fascists out.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, we did vote him out once before.

However, I doubt they'll allow it to happen again.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today -1 points 2 days ago

that was due to a fluke and technicality, that is covid.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago

It's not quitter talk. It is opening a discussion for a workaround.