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Follow-up video to https://lemmy.world/post/32690521


Spoiler alert: the main reason he says the experience "hasn't been great" is because shortly before posting the video his Linux install mysteriously broke and he had no idea why. Therefore, he recommended dual-booting Windows just in case.

Cue sea of comments explaining that the reason for the error he was getting was that Windows screwed up his bootloader (i.e. the problem was caused by dual-booting to begin with, LOL).

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[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No, Linux doesn’t have “much better hardware support than Windows”. It is harder to set up and maintain, so it’s worse. It doesn’t matter if you can make it work. It doesn’t matter if you can make things work that don’t work on Windows. If I plug it in and it doesn’t go, then it’s worse.

Meanwhile all five generations of GCN are varying levels of abandoned officially on Windows while Mesa supports AMD cards going back to GCN1, and even more recently started to enable AMDGPU support by default on GCN1 and 2.

But yeah, as for Windows having better support, GCN1-3 are long since buried officially for that OS, and Polaris and Vega have a foot in the grave at this point as they're curtailed to security updates only officially on Windows, contrasted against Mesa still actively supporting that older hardware. Also, can't emulate RT on RX 5000-series and older cards on Windows, while you can on Linux.

And yes, I'm aware of R.ID modded drivers for those older cards in Windows, but for this context, I'm only counting official driver support.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You are listing edge cases. Nobody cares.

You buy a laptop, you install Linux and it goes. That's the bar for mainstream usage.

If you have an older computer that no longer gets MS or AMD updates it's cool that Linux can be installed on it and be marginally safer, but it's disingenuous to not acknowledge that in that scenario unsupported Windows still works, by definition. For people on older hardware their older hardware is already working.

Linux can, at best, have a lighter footprint (and be less full of decades of leftover garbage) and make some forward compatibility available on very old devices, but it's not unlocking hardware that wasn't working because it didn't have drivers. Windows does do that in general, and especially for newer or niche hardware. Lying to ourselves about this is not doing anybody any favours.

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Aside from lots of people still holding onto RX 580s or 590s because those can still apparently run a lot of stuff at passable quality settings, let alone the Vega 56 and 64 and even the RX 5700 and 5700 XT still being really capable on their own, and yeah, RT emulation on pre-RX 6000 cards is a Linux-exclusive feature and hasn't been implemented in Windows yet and I don't know if it ever will be.

Even GCN2 cards like the R9 390 or 390X can still hold their own once you get around the Vulkan 1.2.170 limitation, which can be easily accommodated for by using DXVK 1.10.x, as long as you're fine with the higher power draw vs. the RX 580 or 590 assuming everything is stock and you didn't undervolt them or set an artificial power cap in Corectrl, plus the RX 580 and 590 support Vulkan 1.3 and thus can run the latest version of DXVK.