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New data shows No Kings was one of the largest days of protest in US history
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I hate reading the comments of all the capitulators here, carrying water for the regime by trying to discourage people with this constant drumbeat that protests are useless and ineffective. Bullshit. Are you magats? We've seen examples in history where protests and the movements they enabled have brought down those in power.
Protests are necessary but not sufficient in themselves. They're how resistance starts and builds, not how it ends. Did you ever think it might take time to form the momentum to get to a critical mass, especially after decades of complacency? Real momentum and effective action was never going to happen immediately or in just weeks, or even in less than eight months which is where we are now. There are already people grouping and doing things other than protests (iykyk) and will be more, made possible by the support and cover that large numbers participating provide.
Troops are being moved into cities and they will keep being sent to more cities. Blue cities. There's one reason for that--they want to intimidate people from turning out and use force to stop those who do. trump keeps saying so and plans are being implemented.
Point is, you may think it's all useless and ineffective, but the regime obviously doesn't. Why do you want to help them? If you think it's hopeless, fine--stay home and doom scroll, but stop trying to dissuade others.
Which is important. Make them want to cover every city in America. The problem for them is that they can't. There aren't enough regular troops, National Guard, and ICE agents put together to make it work. They'll be spread too thin.
That really highlights the importance of protests. If it was just New York it would fail. If it was just Chicago it would fail. If it were just LA it would fail. If we signal that we're all going to work together on this, they can't possibly do it.
I agree. The negativity in this forum has utility beyond providing a stupid counterpoint. It also saturates attention and screenspace in long threads of people arguing nonsense. The goal is disruption, and in a space far from corporate control like Reddit, yet somewhat under-moderated, it's alarmingly effective. At worst, there's an acutual playbook for this exact thing.
I wish I could sticky this.
Trump could get overthrown tomorrow and Lemmy Europeans would find a way to bitch about it
Is it Europeans? I thought the US left is way more puritanical than us
Yeah, probably. They've been suppressed for so long that they're itching to use violent tactics when they don't really understand how violence is a careful, strategic tool for the left.
A ton of Europeans here hold the belief anything less than storming the street and shooting people isn't a worthy way to protest in America and they will tell you as much.
Not really, personally I and a lot of Europeans hold the belief that in order for anything to be done you actually need to be doing those things. Sorry I can't share your happiness about a bunch of people walking around the street that one time, while your child rapist in chief rapes both you and the rest of the world.
Don't like criticism of your inaction, actually do something about it.
Not just Europeans on this team. Watching from Canada and being told nothing can be done but a street march on a sunny Saturday while our own governing schmucks start instituting laws to appease and move our country toward fascism on the lead of the fuckers south of us, is god damn terrifying.
I won't be silent about it either. About 'murica or Canada. 'muricuns are letting a fascist dictator control them and affect lots of others around the world. Canadians are allowing our PM to do the same just much slower and with more smiles and handshakes.
Okay, so how many people have you killed to advance your political position?
It's a bit telling that the only way to advance your political position you can think of is killing people.
That was your stance buddy. I'm just trying to find out if your a hypocrite or a murderer.
Damn those Europeans, always bitching about Trump being overthrown. Well, he isn't overthrown actually, instead he has more and more power by the day and Americans don't do anything effective about it. And those pesky Europeans keep bitching about things that happening instead of being happy about imaginary things that aren't happening.
They think that going out and shooting Republicans will help. Because of course the ones with control over the military will be easily brought down by randos with guns.
Depends on the ones you are shooting. If you kill the 80 year old Republican who has barely any cash? No it won't do shit. If you snipe Charlie Kirk or a senator, then yeah cause it breaks the illusion of their immunity.
Violence is a tool and much like any tool you need to know how to use it. Taking out the propaganda welps and the money movers would be a good first step. It's also a lot harder to work against if done with variable tactics since asymmetrical warfare is a bitch to work against.
Chill with the fedposting. You know you're not actually anonymous here, right? You're putting yourself at risk. People have had the FBI knocking on their door for less.
Okay and? Id tell a fed I want to fill the reflection pool with the corpses of every member of the legislature, executive, and judicial. They'd probably dismiss as a non actionable pretty damned fast since white dude from redneck land is probably a pretty damned common thing to hear this shit from.
If done in a well-organized strategic manner, agreed! But somehow I don't think that's how it would go down.
You don't have to be well-organized nor strategic. Being chaotic and uncaught often works. I listen a lot to Behind the Bastards and Lions Led by Donkeys. It has given me the impression that effectiveness of a given behavior is a horseshoe, where the ends of the shoe have greater impact than a balanced style.
That word is doing a LOT of heavy lifting. But I agree. If only it were easy to do.
Surprisingly, it happens more often than one expects. Just listen to the podcasts I mentioned, all sorts of people, good and bad...usually the bad, get away with being weird in all the ways. Audacity is bit of a cheat code, because most people don't want to disrupt their daily life. This cedes agency to people who do things.
Only need the organization level of a WW2 resistance cell or an IRA cell. Squad level is more than large enough to execute effective operations on a strategic level so long as said cells aren't entirely singular, 5 cells each with 5 people for example even when working independently could probably bring a cities infrastructure to its knees let alone kill random politicians and their buddies.
Here's hopin'!