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[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 38 points 3 days ago (5 children)

And we’re all reaping the benefits of it, right? RIGHT???

Non-violent protest only works against those who have a conscience, with is NOT MAGAts.

[–] 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I humbly disagree. Protests can have a massive economic impact if they reach critical mass. Acts of violence also need a critical mass, but convincing people to protest is far easier than convincing them to commit acts of violence.

Don’t go to work, block all traffic, don’t pay taxes, stop spending, attack all opposition. With enough participation, we can crash the economy in a single day and regain control within a week. Getting people to do what is necessary en masse is the hard part. Things will have to get worse before we get there.

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Its all about the disruption. But protesting isn't the only thing that people should be doing. Community building is just as important if not more so.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Did you go? Did you talk to anyone when you were there? Have you spoken with them since? If your answer is no, then you're just a loud bystander, who gives a fuck what you think. If all you know how to do is blow things up, then STFU and do it. Otherwise, try actually participating.

[–] s@piefed.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I do realize your username is literally GuyFawkes. Nevertheless, when somebody is doing wrong, the first approach should be to use reason and empathy as a point of argument. If that fails, then work to starve the oppressor of what they seek to exploit until they find that pursuit to be no longer in their interests. If that fails, then use whatever means necessary to ensure oppression ends and human rights that were once willingly suppressed instead become guaranteed.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ok but step 1 has been thoroughly explored and this administration didn't delay their agenda for a second. Step 2 requires massive legal reform tandem with a functional judiciary, given that profit, capital, and power consolidation are what they seek. Unfortunately they're winning that battle as the judiciary and legal system are only degrading despite public outcry.

[–] s@piefed.world 7 points 3 days ago

Oh yes, I am aware. The person I was replying to had implied that step 2 didn’t exist at all so I was making a more broad statement.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Non violent protests might take time but it will give good results. Even against violent oppressors.

Violent protests might feel direct, might show results immediately. But those might not be what you would like. Violence only begets violence.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

watches protest footage "yeah that cop clearly shot the reporter from behind in self defense"

... Among a billion other examples

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 5 points 3 days ago (5 children)
[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Let's find out

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I heard there was one in Boston a while back. Started a war.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 8 points 3 days ago

Well, the country was founded by one, so there's that.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 3 days ago

Better than sitting around with a sign. Things actually happen.

[–] swearengen@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago

Every country is founded on and survives via violence.