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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 81 points 3 days ago (5 children)

It’s called a dictionary, and they’ve been doing it for literally years at this point.

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

You can live your life to the fullest even if you don't know phonetic alphabet

[–] Damage@feddit.it 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You don't need to. The Free Dictionary has buttons on every word that speak the word in either US or UK English

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Cool, my book doesn't have that though!

[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

Better call the hotline then!

[–] red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can you, though? Can you really?

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

A is for Alpha
B is for Balthazor
C is for Cappa
D is for Daphne
E is for Ether
F is for Alfalfa

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The pronunciation guide of a dictionary is pretty fuckin esoteric at this point.

I was educated in the 80s and they still didn't teach us how to pronounce words using the dictionary.

[–] HurricaneLiz@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Same with the 80s. My Gramma who was a school teacher in 1933 taught me out of a 100 yr old dictionary. In all the times I've moved, I've managed to hold onto that huge, leather-bound book.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago
[–] notoftenthat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I rejected those lessons after they dropped this on my desk:

/ə/

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 10 points 3 days ago

Still won't help if your locality uses a different pronunciation.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 8 points 3 days ago

*literally hundreds of years

The American Phonetic Dic-tionary of the English Language, edited by Dan S. Smalley, Cincinnati, 1855, has a unique interest. The oldest English dictionary to be printed in a "phonetic" alphabet

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/00335634209380758?needAccess=true

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

oh man, asking a kid in this era to look something up in the dictionary is quite the challenge.

In this book? why? why not just look it up online?

BECAUSE GODDAMNIT REASONS AND SHIT

[–] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The dictionary is now online and often includes an audio recording of the word or phrase of interest. Online is not always better than physical, but this is one of the cases where it is likely better. If you're suggesting a less convenient method of doing something, it makes sense to request a reason. In this case I have to agree with the kids.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

Knowing the international phonetic alphabet is still sometimes useful, when you have a word without an audio pronunciation or trying to transcribe a particular pronunciation

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

If you’re suggesting a less convenient method of doing something, it makes sense to request a reason. In this case I have to agree with the kids.

reasons and shit: Today's generation - fortunately in many ways - hasn't developed the skills needed to look something up. While you can mirror wikipedia and we generally always have access mostly - it's still a valuable skill. ESPECIALLY now that AI is crufting up search results rapidly.

Now, if you're visiting a dedicated dictionary site, well then you just have to deal with ads and cruft. None of that in Websters dead tree edition.

Do these always justify a trip to the bookshelf? Nah. But it is a useful thing to do a few times a month so they have experience seeking sources of information that aren't digital.