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[–] Beacon@fedia.io 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Sergio@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

hmmm.... historically, coca leaves were holy to the indigenous people of the andes and still play an important cultural role. ok, that's all I'm gonna argue.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

And beserkers chugged a cocktail of psychedelic mushrooms and Odin knows what else, they then went apeshit or went into a dream walk and bashed some Saxons skull in. Drugs have played important roles within various cultures and traditions through the millenia, so long as you aren't being an ass about it to the cultures it doesn't seem particularly relevant to what someone outside said traditions does with it.

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)
[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

Getting high as shit has had an important cultural role in most of the world at one point in time or another. Westerners got away from it post-Christendom but even then it's been a thing basically everywhere at one point or another, unless nothing psychedelic grows there, and even then there are ways to achieve ecstatic states to roughly similar effect through extreme asceticism - if there's not something to eat or smoke to get there then your shaman might have to starve and dehydrate himself then be suspended in the air through rods run through his chest, but you can get there either way.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Common misconception. Raw coca leaves don't get you high. Coca leaves are chewed to help alleviate altitude sickness and improve physical performance at high altitudes.

From what I understand, people chew on them all day. It's kinda like drinking coffee all day. And coffee does get you a little high as well for sure. (Haven't had caffeine in years, tried it again recently. Definitely some mild euphoria and was horrible for my resting heart rate and anxiety. I usually hang around 40-50bpm but black tea put me up to like 60-100.)

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

It helps with the high altitude/low oxygen of the mountains.

[–] bent@feddit.dk 0 points 1 month ago

Better it being holy and treated with respect than however it's being used in our culture today.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Oh, but it gets else. Coca Cola can be used to both clean your toilets AND moisten your cakes!