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Mass Effect 1 is still my favourite sci-fi game of all time (infosec.pub)

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This game made me feel like the captain of a space ship. There was nothing like it at the time it was released, and even now I have not experienced any other game making me feel this way. I loved Fallout 3 too, but Mass Effect had something special. It was so well crafted, I listened to every dialogue of every NPC. The characters are so memorable with amazing voice acting. The Citadel is the best city in video games, felt really alive. Most sidequests add to the story instead of just padding the gameplay time.

After playing the game, I wondered how Star Wars (movies) sucked so badly, when a video game could create a much more interesting sci-fi world and story.

Unfortunately Bioware is no longer the same company.

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[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I hope they draw inspiration from the Mass Effect games.

Not to be negative, but save for Last of Us Season 1, none of those series are great adaptations.

Fallout had some great dialogue that was very reminiscent of the games at points, but the lore decisions they made were questionable at best. Ghoulification was changed to be less mysterious and more like the process of mutation; the Sino-American war was simplified from a resource war into Capitalism vs Communism; and the NCR, an imperialist nation and I believe the largest in that area, has been all but destroyed by one nuke to their capital. Also all of the survivors of the NCR are communist, for a reason I'm sure.

Maybe I just needed to rant about the Fallout show. Either way, I sincerely hope they get some huge Mass Effect fans on the team for this one that care about the story the games present above all else.

I'm really tired of this attitude that Hollywood has toward adaptations, where they all want to make it their own. You adapt the story to the best of your ability, and the decisions you must make to adapt to a new medium make it your own. Not rewriting what has come previously.

Mini rant over

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, obviously from ME. Fallout has been by far the best video game adaptation so far. It wasn't really an adaptation though because it is its own story. They seemed to really respect the source material. The lead actor played the game so she could do justice to the franchise. Both shows are made by Amazon, so I have somewhat high hopes.

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What I'm saying is it doesn't matter what some other adaptation has done, they need to focus on representing ME in a way that preserves its themes and story, what anyone else has done be damned.

As for Fallout, the acting was great, but no, I don't think the writers respect the source material. They respect the feel of the source material, for sure. I love the way most of it's shot, and I really love how the vaults are shown to be much more massive. Leaning into the cultish aspect of the Brotherhood of Steel was an awesome move and I think totally fits the path of their organization.

But, as I said in my last comment, there were a few key points about the Fallout world that they changed without much reason other than to give a new story a familiar setting. And I think that's just inherently disrespectful in a world where large swaths of land haven't been touched by the franchise.

It'd be just as easy to set it in Texas, or Illinois, or somewhere without a ton of solidified lore. But they set the show in a location with >135 years of post-war history and post-war development, that was under control of a nation so large it was manufacturing concrete and colonizing new lands. Then they kinda... just said their capital got nuked and they disappeared and the 12 survivors are communist now???

Also worth noting that East Coast Fallout and West Coast Fallout are very different thematically, with East Coast focusing on rebuilding and West Coast focusing on humanity repeating the same mistakes that led to the Great War (War Never Changes...).

The show wears Fallout's skin, for sure. There's also many dialogue exchanges that feel like nods to how the world works in-game, and I love that. But that doesn't make it a great adaptation, because the Bethesda Fallout games also look like Fallout. And they really shirk exploring the franchise themes in favor of making a zany wasteland to explore.

I'm no hater of those East Coast games, I love Fallout 3 and I've put a lot of time into Fallout 4. But they do really feel like a totally separate take on the same world. With the show, the lens of that take is applied to the world of the original franchise and they definitely misrepresented how realistically ideology works in this world.

All that said, they left enough open-ended for me to want to watch Season 2. But I really hope they delve more into the actual ideologies at play. Because Fallout is not about a wasteland, it's about people, what we believe, and how we repeat our mistakes. They're already halfway there with how the main characters interact, I'm just hoping they apply that writing to the factions.

Longer rant over. Can you tell I'm into Fallout? 😅