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The other side is that the mass layoffs of the last year mean that there are plenty of experienced people to hire over new grads. I can't imagine any company right now taking on the cost and risk of training up entry level folks when they can hire a 10+ yr senior in that role who's been job hunting for 5 months, for the same or a little more than the entry level salary.
5? I know some in the industry who have been out for 30 months. Talented and experienced, as well.
That sucks, that's way beyond what anyone I've met has been out for. They're either very specialized, in an area that requires in-person work (and they're not nearby to anyone), or there's something that's red-flagging them.
Infrastructure orchestration with kubes and mgmtConfig from bazel for Ai, and he can build it up like that if he was airlifted into the jungle with a laptop and a Google DC truck. BSc, BEng, MSc, in 6 years via our military officer programme; which means he could probably plan and mount a strong defence of his architecture on a whiteboard with markers or in the mud with troopies. Whip-smart, this one guy. Resume with all the FAANGs on them.
We have been consistently baffled; like, does he want a real wage, or did he broil the neighbour and eat a leftover leg during the interview?
It sounds like he's an Operations/SRE specialist, but his quals seem like he'd be overqualified for most Ops/SRE roles unless it's a director or VP. Especially with the shift to devops, he might need to shift domains or grow out of pure Ops work. It's going to be nearly impossible to hire into an Architect or Director role unless he already has that on his resume.
they will just go to h1b visas, and hire lower quality people, to barely maintain things.
From what I'm seeing and hearing in the tech space, I think the opposite is true. I think the current admin's war on non-white people is making companies really wary of hiring H1B holders (even European ones) and even green card holders.
A lot of companies are just halting hiring altogether for a bit, and the ones who are hiring are looking for local, laid-off tech workers at lower salaries, who have to take it because there's such a glut of them to compete with. Somewhat counterintuitively, this doesn't mean an easier time for Americans to get hired, it means fewer overall Americans getting hired period (which the recent jobs reports prove to be the case).
Companies tend to hire visa'd workers when they are doing rapid business expansion, because that's when saving the 20-30% per-head adds up (e.g. if you're saving 20% per-head when hiring 100, you're saving yourself 20 salaries-worth, but if you're hiring 5, you're better off getting the most experienced ones who give you the best bang-for-your-buck). And no one is doing rapid business expansions in this economy.