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[โ€“] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

but also like, it's kinda nice to not do cancer research on humans, for all that animal testing sucks human testing is almost universally viewed as 1000x worse and doing no testing at all is also unacceptable because that means we don't decrease the amount of humans who suffer terrible diseases and deaths (which for reference can be you or people you love).

Yes, rat experimentation is the cornerstone of modern medicone, but that doesn't make it any less fucked up.

Something can be equally good for people yet completely inhumane. It doesn't cancel each other out.

Do I think we should stop experimenting on rats? Absolutely not. But we can try to at least improve the general well-being of these rats and stop deliberately torture them. Peopes have done sleep deprivation experiments where a rat is forced to stay awake or fall in the water and start to drown.