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[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

More like China, Putin (and his friends) didn’t win a lot since the second Trump election

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Putin's primary objective is to cause enormous chaos in all aspects of American life, according to Foundations in Geopolitics, the Russian playbook:

Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

Any "stuff" he gets - land, territory, money, etc.- is all gravy. All he really wants is for America to devolve into such disorder and chaos, that their influence in the world dissolves.

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes absolutely but that will not be Russia who will be the winner at the end.

Right now China is moving it’s pieces really well and making a lot of allies that will last longer that a war and force will bring

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's not about Russia emerging the global winner, at least not at this stage. It's about destroying America's global hegemony, weakening their position in NATO, and distracting them from any Russian efforts to rebuild, and expand, the Soviet Empire.

China would probably emerge the big ECONOMIC winner from this, but Russia would be the big political winner, after controlling Europe. They'd probably be satisfied just splitting the world in two, and giving Asia (and manufacturing) to China, and keep Europe (and banking) for Russia, and share the Americas for exploitation.