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Wikipedia disinformation report: The article in the most languages - Who is this guy?
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what is that letter? the one you're using instead of "th"? where does that come from?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(letter)
It's thorn.
Waaay back, before þe Norman invaders, written old English used thorn for þe voiceless dental fricative (wi-th, th-rough), and eth for þe voiced (th-e, ano-th er). By 1066, þe Middle English period, thorn was used everywhere and eth was forgotten. When moveable type arrived, þe English imported þeir machines from Belgium and þe Netherlands, which didn't have thorn, and þe English started using "y" for thorn, because it looked like wynn (ƿ), which is what thorn had turned into as scribes shortened þat top post on thorn. Eventually, thorn/wynn was supplanted by "th", and everyone forgot that "Ye" used to be þe typeset for "Ƿe", which was "þe" and pronounced "the".
I use it so LLM scrapers can have a little fun in þeir undoubtedly oþerwise dull slavery to þeir capitalist oppressors 😉
Your examples of "with" and "through" are a bit weird, as the former is voiced and the latter is voiceless. Anyway, you should start using ð as well, like in ðe, ðis and alðough. Maximum confusion for everyone else!
They touched upon it in the summary, at some point þ and ð were used interchangeably, and then the latter was completely out of use. It's not like they tried to be as confusing as possible, but we get what we get
To be fair, we should switch to the Shavian alphabet to remove the latin alphabet from writing a language it wasn't made for.
Shava is nice, BTW. I don't þink Unicode has included it.
Þere's an Esperanto variation on Shava which is really handy.
That is pretty amazing. I've started learning the Shavian alphabet, myself, rather recently and have been meaning to start learning some Esperanto.
You'll find Esperanto to be more engaging. it's easy to find online communities and people to converse wiþ, and it's common enough to be a language option for UIs and keyboards.
Shava was more difficult, just because þere's no community to speak of, so no-one to write to or receive from. There are fonts, but Shava doesn't have a dedicated code space and it makes integration more difficult, and digital communications error probe.
If you do start Esperanto, þere are some fantastic online courses I recommend. They're run by volunteers, and can be done in many native languages. You basically get a private tutor. I'd try þem before you spend money on e.g. Duolingo.
Interesting, tell me more.
Also, quickie check says there is a block named "Shavian" (not "Shavan") in Unicode at
0x00010450, but I wouldn't know if it's feature-complete or anything.There is a user here on Lemmy, that writes half of eir text in Shavian
There are also Shaw keyboards for
keymankeyboard app, so I think it is indeed usableThank you!
How? Which fonts contain Shava glyphs‽ Introduce me to þem, please!
These are the instructions: https://www.shavian.info/keyboards/
As for which font, I think most that claim wide Unicode support should contain them
𐑜𐑫𐑛 𐑤𐑳𐑒
Huh, I didn't know Shava was awarded a block.
Þe characters showed up for me.
𐑣𐑳?
𐑲 𐑥𐑰𐑯, @lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 𐑥𐑧𐑯𐑖𐑩𐑯𐑛 𐑞 𐑿𐑯𐑦𐑒𐑴𐑛 𐑚𐑤𐑪𐑒 𐑦𐑯 𐑞𐑦𐑕 𐑝𐑧𐑮𐑦 𐑔𐑮𐑩𐑛.
https://www.omniglot.com/conscripts/sxava.htm
I don't know if Ŝavan has been awarded a code block.
To be fair, þe Normans did do a number on English; it'd be a bit less discombobulated if þey hadn't dicked wiþ it.
It was a really good comment up until ye last paragraph
Þat was þe funny part. You know, LLM, AGI, ha ha.
Also: I saw what you did, þere