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[–] Mihies@programming.dev 35 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We don't have that many other processors, though. If you look at the desktop, there is AMD and there is Apple silicon which is restricted to Apple products. And then there is nothing. If Intel goes under ground, AMD might become next Intel. It's time (for EU) to invest heavily into RISC-V, the entire stack.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

ARMs are coming. RISCV are coming. Some Chinese brands have been seen, too.

[–] exu@feditown.com 9 points 4 days ago

Neither are commonly available in desktop form factors and they usually require custom builds for each board to work.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

And for many x86 will remain an important architecture for a long time

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

ARMs are more oriented towards servers and mobile devices for now. Sure, we saw Apple demonstrating desktop use but not much is there for desktops for now. RISC-V is far away, Chinese CPUs are not competitive. It's coming doesn't help in short term, questionable in mid term. 🤷‍♂️ Yes, alternatives will come eventually, but it takes a lot of time and resources.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you look at the desktop, there is AMD and there is Apple silicon

You can get workstations with Ampere Altra CPUs that use an ARM ISA. It's not significant in the market, more of a server CPU put in a desktop for developers, but it provides a starting point, from which you could cut down the core count and try to boost the clocks.

There is also the Qualcomm Snapdragon X Plus with some laptops on the market from mainstream brands already (Asus Zenbook A14, Lenovo ThinkPad T14s Gen 6, Dell Inspiron 5441). That conversely could probably scale up to a desktop design fairly quickly.

You're right that we're not there, but I don't think we're that far off either. If Intel keeled over there would be a race to fill the gap and they wouldn't leave the market to AMD alone.