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Time to download new Plasma bugs! I just hope it will decrease crashing frequency to once per week with Wayland backend, with Bookworm it was once per day, which is not fun if you need to keep several windows open.
I'm on Fedora with Plasma & Wayland, everything just works... Honestly not sure if Fedora is doing something special or all this talk of Plasma being crashy is overblown.
Plasma has a cycle of releasing a bunch of new features and changes, and then squashing bugs every week when they discover them.
Debian is on a 2+ year release schedule, and the packages are frozen long before the release. So plasma might be either working fine, or be broken for 2+ years.
Fedora is semi-stable because it's on a 4 month schedule, and AFAIK they don't rush upgrading to new major plasma versions, so plasma works a lot better.
Generally from my experience, plasma works best on rolling distros, while it's crap on stable ones. Stable DEs like xfce are incomparably better suited to stable distros.
I haven't had plasma crash on debian, fedora, or opensuse using wayland on three completely different, albeit older setups. It was completely unusable briefly on opensuse with an Nvidia card, but zero crashes that I can recall.
Same, went to Bazzite after a decade on Fedora, it's been YEARS since I've had any issue with Plasma
Using Plasma Wayland on Debian sounds like you're deliberately setting yourself up for a lot of pain.
I've been using Plasma Wayland on Bookworm since Bookworm came out. Never had any issues. I'm using AMD GPU though.
I've used it on Bookworm for like a month, then gave up and switched to X11.
Plasma 6 is a significant upgrade for sure, especially on Wayland! I'd rate the crash frequency (on Fedora) at between once per week and once per month ;-)
Hopefully when plasma crashes the clients don't, so that's something at least
Nope, plasma-session crash means all your windows are goooone.
If it's only plasma-desktop or kwin crash, you can generally restart it from a terminal, and you need one terminal window open at all times to do that, since you won't be able to launch a new window with no desktop, or you try to launch it from the text console, which works badly because it won't see your plasma-session environment.
Kwin is now the Wayland compositor instead of just the window manager, so I'm pretty sure on Wayland if Kwin crashes, all your programs go with it
Oh damn, thats bad. But for me, whenever it crashed, it comed back online after 2-3s so idk.
I had 0 crashes with plasma 5.27 on debian 12 and I used it for 1.5 years, I have been using unstable for 6 months with plasma and only 3 crashes of which plasma mamaged to recover gracefully on all of them, I genuinely dont know how people get Plasma to crash so much more often than I, and I have only used the wayland session
I've been on Debian Kde with X11 for this very reason, well, this and the lack of wacom support. But I heard upstream in Kde land, things are a lot better now, so I'm happy to try again. If not, well... see ya in 2 years or so.