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TranscriptA post by [object Object] (@zzt@mas.to) saying: courtesy of @davidgerard@circumstances.run, Proton is now the only privacy vendor I know of that vibe codes its apps: In the single most damning thing I can say about Proton in 2025, the Proton GitHub repository has a “cursorrules” file. They’re vibe-coding their public systems. Much secure! I am once again begging anyone who will listen to get off of Proton as soon as reasonably possible, and to avoid their new (terrible) apps in any case. https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/114961415946154957

It has a reply by the author saying: in an unsurprising update for those familiar with how Proton operates, they silently rewrote their monorepo’s history to purge .cursor and hide that they were vibe coding: https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients/tree/2a5e2ad4db0c84f39050bf2353c944a96d38e07f

given the utter lack of communication from Proton on this, I can only guess they’ve extracted .cursor into an external repository and continue to use it out of sight of the public

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[–] Eryn6844@beehaw.org 20 points 1 week ago (5 children)

so if nobody likes proton what do you guys do? i am getting tired of the email shuffle.

[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago

I feel like every email post is a "don't use platform x" and there are very few (if any?) universally well received services out there. In which case the community will probably just give up and go back to Google.

We probably need a tier chart or something to add perspective. Proton have made dumb decisions recently but they're still better than Google/Microsoft

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've been using Posteo for years and don't have any complaints.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

How is the initial storage limit?

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 days ago

I'm not sure what the options all are, but it looks like I have 2 gigs at $1 per month.

[–] black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

I use GPG in Thunderbird with ForwardEmail (because I use a custom domain)

[–] pheggs@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

I self host my mail. There are plenty of people telling you not to do so, but I sincerely have made very good experience with it the last 10 years. The absolute minimum you should do is to have your own domain, otherwise you are in a vendor lockin.

Then, use PGP where possible with an open source mail client such as thunderbird.

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

self host. you can get great deals on domains and have whatever you want. Hell in many cases you can get free domains with hosting. my domain is a .ca (i'm Canadian) and I got it free for 2 years with a hosting plan that costs me $50 a year. So I'm already saving over Proton, It's local to me, and I can have unlimited accounts and bandwidth. I also use it to host my portfolio site.

Then I also have my own home server which I use for VPN, Backups, Bitwarden, Git Repos, torrents/media, even have my own searx search engine on it.

[–] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I host other stuff, but isn't email a pain to get working and not marked as spam?

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I haven't had any issues with it being marked as spam as of yet.