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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

Canada should really just wait until the US collapses and then move south into the wreckage.

The Nordic countries don't understand bad climate. Maybe they want to continue existing as they are, but Canadians will want to move south as soon as the US destroys itself.

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| | Coldest Mean Daily Minimum | -4.7 | -3.2 | -6.3 | -14 | | Coldest Mean Minimum | -15.9 | -13.7 | -20.6 | -27 | | Coldest Record Low | -26.0 | -28.2 | -35 | -38.9 | | Hottest Mean Maximum | 29.6 | 30.6| 27.9 | 32 | | Hottest Record High | 34.6 | 35.4| 33.2 | 37.8 |

Ottawa is significantly colder than those country's capitals during the winter, and significantly hotter in the summer. It might be unpleasant at times to live in those European climates, but it's truly miserable to live in Ottawa for much of the year.

People in the Nordic countries might want to stay there because it's the only place where their language is spoken, or because there are thousands of years of tradition in living there. Meanwhile, Canada as a country is barely 150 years old, and speaks the same language (with roughly the same accent) as the neighbour to the south.

There's a lot in common in terms of culture too. Sure, Canada plays a bit more hockey than the southerners, but they have the NHL too. The other sports are largely shared: Toronto has NBA and MLB teams. Unlike Europe where "futbol" is big, it's pretty small in the English-speaking part of North America, but to the extent it exists, Canada is part of the same system, with teams in Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal. The only split is that Canada plays a superior version of gridiron football with far inferior players, and the US has a mass market hugely popular version of gridiron football with worse rules but much better players.

Canadians watch the same TV shows and movies, and listen to the same music. Many of the stars of stage and screen in the US are actually Canadian, and many shows that are set in the US and air on US TV are actually filmed in Canada.

So really, there isn't a lot that Canada has in common with the Nordic countries. I like the idea of working more with the EU and less with the US, but culturally Canadians are part of the English-speaking North American culture... except when it comes to politics, guns, and healthcare.

I just hope the US hurries its collapse up so that the remnants of the fractured states can petition to join Canada and the border can be shifted down. Then Canadians can move to a more hospitable climate without having to abandon the parts of their culture that matter.