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[–] mitch@piefed.mitch.science 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think leftists really have the best description for conservatism — "reactionaries." They don't believe in shit, they simply weave their beliefs depending on what allows them in the moment to react the way they expect they should.

For instance, MAGA being turbo anti-pedophile for decades until they all realize that their king is basically King Pedophile — now they're like, "ah, well, maybe those kids knew what they were getting into. Trump did have a reputation after all. Nobody takes responsibility anymore."

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely. The thing is: they do have beliefs and values, they're just selfish and narcissistic.

From the same book:

People who aren’t conservative often fail to realize this, but conservatism really does speak to and for people who have lost something. It may be a landed estate or the privileges of white skin, the unquestioned authority of a husband or the untrammeled rights of a factory owner. The loss may be as material as money or as ethereal as a sense of standing. It may be a loss of something that was never legitimately owned in the first place; it may, when compared with what the conservative retains, be small. Even so, it is a loss, and nothing is ever so cherished as that which we no longer possess. It used to be one of the great virtues of the left that it alone understood the often zero-sum nature of politics, where the gains of one class necessarily entail the losses of another. But as that sense of conflict diminishes on the left, it has fallen to the right to remind voters that there really are losers in politics and that it is they—and only they—who speak for them. “All conservatism begins with loss,” Andrew Sullivan rightly notes, which makes conservatism not the Party of Order, as Mill and others have claimed, but the party of the loser.

The chief aim of the loser is not—and indeed cannot be—preservation or protection. It is recovery and restoration.

[–] mitch@piefed.mitch.science 6 points 3 months ago

yes, your quote is why I have often referred to American conservatism as "grievance culture." that is also why this moment in time has me really scared, because the end of grievance culture is obviously a satisfaction of grievances, which have been collecting since the very first day Rush Limbaugh went on air. the revenge tour has only just begun :/