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TranscriptA post by [object Object] (@zzt@mas.to) saying: courtesy of @davidgerard@circumstances.run, Proton is now the only privacy vendor I know of that vibe codes its apps: In the single most damning thing I can say about Proton in 2025, the Proton GitHub repository has a “cursorrules” file. They’re vibe-coding their public systems. Much secure! I am once again begging anyone who will listen to get off of Proton as soon as reasonably possible, and to avoid their new (terrible) apps in any case. https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/114961415946154957

It has a reply by the author saying: in an unsurprising update for those familiar with how Proton operates, they silently rewrote their monorepo’s history to purge .cursor and hide that they were vibe coding: https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients/tree/2a5e2ad4db0c84f39050bf2353c944a96d38e07f

given the utter lack of communication from Proton on this, I can only guess they’ve extracted .cursor into an external repository and continue to use it out of sight of the public

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[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 56 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How is this proof of vibecoding?

[–] officermike@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Cursor is an AI-powered code editor that understands your codebase and helps you code faster through natural language. Just describe what you want to build or change and Cursor will generate the code for you.

https://docs.cursor.com/en/welcome

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Using cursor doesn't mean you're vibe coding.

I use ai all day at work for development, none of it is vibe coding.

[–] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah there’s a big difference in code quality between using cursor as an aid to write code and vibe coding which would be asking it to write and debug large swathes of code with little human input. AI is very good at correctly writing a couple lines at a time. It quickly loses the plot when trying to write hundreds of lines or more and the human user has no idea what it’s doing anymore.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sure, but even VS code has been pushing Copilot pretty hard and from the screenshots the setups look fairly similar. It's a recently released code editor with their own personal AI built in vs. VS Code which has the AI as an extension (or built in, I don't know what the default install is like these days).

If they're using it to auto complete lines of code or fill out boilerplate then I don't see the problem. If they're typing "make me a password manager" into the prompt window, hitting enter, and accepting it blindly, that's a problem. Also the code is (at least in this case) open source, so there should be better evidence of bad vibe coded code than the presence of a config file

I think there are better things to criticise Proton for, and unless there is more to the vibe coding than using the Cursor, citing this as a reason will get those other criticisms ignored in the noise.

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It doesn't matter Proton is the whipping boy of the fediverse

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 8 points 1 week ago
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -5 points 1 week ago

If you were smart enough to look for an answer to the actual question being asked instead of assuming it's a rhetorical that agrees with your bias you'd have learned something today.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cursor is an "ai powered" code editor, cursorrules is a file it uses for configuration.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, so is Visual Studio and VS Code.

The presence of an AI assistant isn't evidence of vibe coding. Even using that AI assistant to auto-complete lines or small sections of boilerplate isn't vibe coding. To do that you need to ask the AI for whole swaths of code and then just accept what it gives you.

Proton's repo here is open source. What portion of it presents issues? Any?

[–] ShoeThrower@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Why would you use Cursor instead of VS (the standard for decades) if you're not going to use the AI features Cursor was specifically created for?