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[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

This seems like a good place for a thought i had yesterday. I was driving home and watched a younger woman, no older than 20 take a corner fast and sharp on the sidewalk. She was on one of those electric scooters you can rent. My first thought is how fun that would have been at that age. Then i really started thinking.

Here was this young woman pretty sure at driving age but vehicle prices are out of control. So owning even a beater may be too much for many. I had a scooter very similar but you had to push it everywhere. The deference is, I was eight. I think what I'm trying to find the words for is their privilege of a motorized scooter came at a price they'll never even understand.

These poor youth think they have it easy with there motorized scooters and chatgpt for answers. Truth is there are benefits to some things, maybe history will show I'm being an old fuddy duddy but I know i would still rather afford a cheap car than have rentable scooters.

Maybe like my teachers before me they will only be half truths. My teacher was right, I don't carry a calculator on me at all time. The supercomputer the size of that old calculator, that just so happens to also have that function? Well, its never far.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Despite being from a time before the internet, pocket calculators and smart phones, (my first "calculator" was a slide rule), I'm as quick to adopt and master tech as I find a need for it. I like shiny new tech.

But as someone who also spent a few years teaching math in a my local and very rural school, I was not very generous with the use of that super computer in your pocket in my classroom. The reason being I wanted you to get your fingers dirty and greasy playing and manipulating those numbers yourself. I wanted to you develop a personal relationship with them and have at least a basic idea of the how and why they work.

Modern tech is great if you already have an understanding of how things work and can simply view it as a tool. But modern tech pretty much prevents people from developing the basic understanding of the how and why things work. And we are all dumber for it.

Thank you for making your students do that. I'm sure it made them miserable at the time but I guarantee they are better for it.

In college I had a similar experience with statistics. I had to run a factor analysis by hand start to finish, calculating standard deviations, means, and all the other crap, showing work over 3 pages to get eigenvalues and all that. It sucked, but dammit if I dont have a WAY better appreciation for how it works now than I ever would have otherwise.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When I was growing up, programmable calculators were allowed in math class, but not required. Even so, I was the only kid in my class without one. (They were expensive then.) I failed every test, both because the work was difficult without all the formulas saved, and because the problems were complicated enough that I never had time to finish.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The school I taught in was rural and poor. Part of my budget was for calculators, so I had enough TR99's and the school issued chromebooks for each student to use. My students would moan and groan about not getting to use a calculator, but they quickly understood why and when we would use them or not.

I wasn't a tyrant about using them. Sometimes, those magic devices made complex tasks far more approachable and teachable. But you need a good basic foundation to get the best out of them.

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey I'm one of the youths in their 20s who can't afford a car because America devolved into a third world country by the time I aged into adulthood. I bought my first car, 3 years ago and it broke down within a few months, then I bought a car with my partner so we would have wheels. We are divorced now. No car and I only have an ebike so I'm thankful for the transportation I do have, at least I don't have to ride the bus

Thats rough. I wish i could say it will get easier but after 40 years I've noticed it doesn't. I truly hope you get ahead. It's not easy out there right now. Cheers mate.

[–] doktormerlin@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lol, your comment about the vehicle is stupid as fuck. There is a woman on a scooter. Your city network provides her the possibility to drive with a small vehicle with low emissions and low noise pollution, she doesn't need to take the car. You don't know if she owns a car or not, maybe she just prefers the scooter? Her using the scooter is a net positive for everyone. Less traffic, less noise, less emissions and she still gets to her destination quickly

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why is it stupid?

You are being really mean for someone saying, in general, that the next generation doesn't seem to have it better. Why is that stupid? I don't understand why you would think that's a dumb sentiment to have unless you were just a mean person. Is that not a normal worry to have for children?

[–] doktormerlin@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's stupid to assume that just because someone is on an electric scooter, that person doesn't have enough money to buy a car

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is it possible someone like that exists? Yes. So what's the problem with the thought process?

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The problem is judging this person based on your assumptions about them.

It's not such a terrible thing people are not owning cars.

[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only thing I placed any judgment on in my entire post was how out of control vehicle prices were. You inferred any other judgment all on your own. Maybe you shouldn't jump to assumptions about someone's intentions. This isn't redit.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

I don't think you realize how much your post comes across as assuming young people should aspire to own and drive cars.