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[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Show me where obesity is hereditary and not habit based?

I can't show it to you, it's a hard subject requiring a lot of data. But everybody having obese relatives know that they generally eat the same things and still get obese!

Sugar is still calories and still comes out as burned energy and processing those calories does not matter because it is still burned as energy.

You don't know what you are talking about.

They may eat healthy but they eat a lot of healthy food which is still calories and they don’t exercise which is how you burn calories.

You don't know what you're talking about. Yep, exercise is very good, with different effects on different people still.

Why are you taking personal attacks at me?

Because:

Obesity is literally a self control issue. If you dont exercise, don’t eat as much.

It's a different magnitude self control issue for different people. It's a self control issue for me - if I eat only burgers for a month, I might start getting obese (more likely just die), I just have to avoid that. It's a self control issue for my sister - if with her steamed vegetable diet she exercises a bit less, she gains weight. These are not comparable.

If you eat a ton, you have burn those calories or they will store up. This is the just how this works.

You are not saying anything valuable, that's just how this works. Health is complex.

[–] Malek061@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Health is not complex. Eat right. Work out. Everything else falls into place.

Stop making excuses for bad habits that harm people. If you truly cared about your friends and family, you will tell them when they are unhealthy. If you encourage their behavior, you are an enabler and they will die sooner rather than later.

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 days ago

In most cases it's actually not hereditary, for some it is however. But in most cases, it's related to mental disease. Lack of impulse control due to ADHD or depression for example. I went through that, finally on medication for 2 months now and I finally have the headspace to lose weight. And I agree with you, that losing weight works wonders on your health. But it isn't as easy as you make it out to be.

Social status is also one of those things, especially in countries that are riddled with the cancer that is capitalism. Unhealthy food often is way cheaper than healthy food. Plus, poor people often work 2-3 jobs. They don't have time to cook healthy meals.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 days ago

You don't seem to get what I'm saying. I'm not saying eating right and working out isn't necessary.

I'm saying that you not being obese and some other person being that is most likely not your achievement or their failure. It's just genetic predisposition.

I don't need excuses in this setting.