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A) is just rediculous, the space required to feed even a suburban block is orders of magnitude more than a greenhouse onsite could provide. It may be able to grow enough herbs, but that's about it.
I'm fine with the rest of the idea.
Ground floor is the community grocery, and the next 3-5 floors are a hydroponics farm. It's really not that ridiculous.
You could have 5 floors, and it still wouldn't be enough. You could have 30 floors and it wouldn't be enough.
I don't think you understand the scale of farming to human. Even if you're entirely vegetarian it's on the order of 0.5-1 acre per person to grow the required food. That's 20,000-40,000 square feet. Even if hydroponics were involved and cut that by a factor of 10, you'd still be at 2000 square feet per person. A typical grocery store is 25-50,000 square feet, so let's go with the most generous and say 5 floors of 50,000 square feet you could produce enough food for.... 125 people.
The math doesn't math. No reasonable amount of food growth is ever going to be possible inside a city.
What you said:
What I said:
We're not talking about the same thing. You're arguing with yourself.
Replace grocery store with cafeteria, do you have an actual argument or are you just nitpicking?
No I have an idea to fix food bank shortages, while creating jobs and teaching practical skills. The shortage that occurred collectively in your brains I have nothing for.
Look, I'm all for making the world a better place. So here's my 2c, from somebody who's tried and done it in a small manner. You'll need allies, partners. You'll face a lot of doubt and questions. If you meet it all with outright hostility, you're never going to get very far. Sure, we're all online randos, but if you can't muster a decent argument with all the time in the world, you're going to have a hard time persuading anybody in the real world.
And what part of that comment was indented to make me an ally or not perceive you as outrightly hostile?
Cute adhominim at the end there. Couldn't resist could you? Ya hypocrite.