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[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 61 points 6 days ago (34 children)

IMO every city should have public cafeterias that:

A) Grow / process ingredients onsite (greenhouse), or source through a local network.

B) Provide nutritional food free of charge

C) Create entry level jobs that teach practical skills such as cooking and horticulture.

D) Increase food security. Global agriculture supply chains are about to be completely disrupted by climate change.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago (20 children)

A) is just rediculous, the space required to feed even a suburban block is orders of magnitude more than a greenhouse onsite could provide. It may be able to grow enough herbs, but that's about it.

I'm fine with the rest of the idea.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

or source through a local network.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I just replied to your other comment, but even a local network can't feed a city. Let's do some more math.

Los Angeles has about 18 million people, and on average they take about 2 acres of land to feed (it can be less for vegetarians, but lets assume they are just normal people here)

That's 36 million acres needed, which is about 56,000 square miles, which is an area of 280 miles by 200 miles of nothing but farmland.

You quite literally can't even feed Los Angles with a 100 mile diet, even if it was surrounded by nothing but farms (which it isn't)

In fact, California only has about 25 million acres of farmland in total (8 million irrigated, and the rest for animal grazing)

Source local food sounds good, but we import food for a reason. Cities require a ridiculous amount of farm land to feed.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What you said:

typical grocery store

What I said:

IMO every city should have public cafeterias

We're not talking about the same thing. You're arguing with yourself.

[–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

I've never been to a cafeteria with a bigger footprint than the average grocery store.

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