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[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)
  • Weinstein
  • Diddy
  • Cosby
  • Dan Shneider
  • Danny Masterson

All these guys got a pass for quite some time, all because they worked on having an image so pure the public would defend it for them. Trump has entire news stations doing that for him.

You think police listen to claims that people with a good public image are secretly sexual deviants? No. They don't. Especially if they're powerful. The person making the claim is a nobody. What are the chances they're telling the truth? They have evidence? No they don't, the police believe your evidence is probably fake so you can grift money.

Now imagine you hear that after you were taken advantage of, and tried to report it. And you hear it everytime you try to report it.

You want justice? First step is getting anyone to even listen when your accusations rock the boat. Doesn't matter the boat is built of lies and bullshit, you're still rocking it.

Everyone I listed above has dozens of allegations against them. Yet they got away with it for years. Mostly because each single voice was individually seperated and buried so they could never group together for the strength needed for actual justice.

The question you should be asking is: Why aren't we listening to the allegations of EVERY individual when a new person comes forward?

Why is every new claim presented as something new by the media? Why are the consensus of voices saying the same thing downplayed as "dozens of others" instead of looked at with the slightest bit of credibility?

You want to listen to this new claim about Trump? Cool, let's first hear from everyone else to see if the same things line up:

  • Jill Harth, who worked with Trump in the 1990s, accused him of “attempted rape” in a 1997 complaint. She said that in 1993, Trump tried to kiss her in his daughter’s bedroom at his Mar-a-Lago resort, pushing her against a wall and putting his hand up her dress.

  • Jessica Leeds told The New York Times in 2016 that, in the late 1970s, Trump, who was a stranger to her, reached his hand up her skirt and grabbed her breasts on a flight to New York. She said he “was like an octopus” and his “hands were everywhere” before she fled to the back of the plane.

  • Kristin Anderson, a photographer and former model, told The Washington Post in 2016 that Trump sat next to her at a nightclub in the early 1990s and reached under her skirt. Anderson said the incident lasted about 30 seconds, but she and her friends were “very grossed out and weirded out.” 

  • Ivana Trump, Trump’s first wife, accused him in a divorce deposition of raping her in a fit of rage in 1989, when they were married.

  • Five former Miss Teen USA contestants told BuzzFeed News in 2016 that in 1997, Trump, the owner of the pageant at the time, unexpectedly walked into the contestants’ dressing room while they were changing, Victoria Hughes said that it was “the most inappropriate time to meet us all for the first time. The youngest girl was 15, and I was the eldest at 19.” The other three women described a similar situation to BuzzFeed anonymously.

  • E. Jean Carroll, a writer, said Trump raped her in 1996 in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room. Carroll wrote about the incident in her 2019 memoir called “What Do We Need Men For?” In May 2023, Carroll was awarded $5 million after a jury held Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation.

  • Temple Taggart, former Miss Utah, told The New York Times in 2016 that Trump “kissed me directly on the lips” when he met her at the 1997 Miss USA pageant and again when she met with him in Manhattan after he offered to help with her modeling career. Taggart described the incident as “inappropriate” and said her first thought after he kissed her was, “Oh my God, gross.” 

  • Cathy Heller told The Guardian in 2016 that Trump forcibly kissed her when she attended a Mother’s Day brunch at Mar-a-Lago in the 1990s. Heller said she was “angry and shaken” after the former president ignored her handshake, grabbed her and went for the lips and became angry when she tried to turn her head away. 

  • Amy Dorris, a former model, said Trump forcibly kissed and groped her in his private box at the U.S. Open tennis championship in 1997. Dorris told The Guardian in 2020 that Trump “shoved his tongue down my throat” and “his hands were very gropey and all over my butt, my breasts, my back, everything.” 

  • Karena Virginia, a yoga instructor and life coach, told The Washington Post in 2016 that Trump groped her, unexpectedly wrapping his arm around her and touching her breast, in 1998 while she waited for a car outside the U.S. Open.

  • Karen Johnson, who was a regular at Mar-a-Lago, said Trump pulled her behind a tapestry to kiss and grope her during a New Year’s Eve party in the early 2000s. Johnson detailed the incident to journalists Barry Levine and Monique El-Faizy, who published it in their 2019 book, “All the President’s Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator,” aalong with 42 other allegations of sexual misconduct.

  • Bridget Sullivan, another former Miss USA contestant, told BuzzFeed News in 2016 that she met Trump at a party promoting the competition, and he hugged her “a little low on your back” and gave “a squeeze that your creepy uncle would.” In a separate instance in 2000, Sullivan said, Trump walked backstage while many of the contestants were naked or getting dressed.

  • Tasha Dixon, a former Miss USA contestant, told CBS in 2016 that, in 2001, Trump walked into where she and other contestants were changing. Dixon said she thought Trump “owned the pageant for the reasons to utilize his power to get around beautiful women."

  • Natasha Stoynoff, a former reporter for People magazine, wrote in 2016 that Trump sexually assaulted her in 2005 while she was visiting Mar-a-Lago to work on a story about his first year of marriage with Melania. When they were alone, Stoynoff said, Trump closed the door and pushed her against the wall before “forcing his tongue down my throat.” 

  • Juliet Huddy, a former Fox News anchor, said on the “Mornin!!! With Bill Schulz” podcast in 2017 that Trump kissed her unexpectedly and without her consent in Trump Tower in the mid-2000s. Huddy said she “didn’t feel threatened” at the time but later realized she would’ve said no more clearly. 

  • Rachel Crooks, a former receptionist at Trump Tower, told The New York Times in 2016 that Trump kissed her “directly on the mouth” without consent when she first met him in 2005. 

  • Samantha Holvey, a former Miss USA contestant, told CNN in 2016 that when she competed in 2006, Trump personally inspected each contestant, looking at them from head to toe like “sexual objects,” which made her feel “the dirtiest I felt in my entire life.” 

  • Ninni Laaksonen, a model and former Miss Finland, in 2016 told Ilta-Sanomat, a Finnish newspaper, that Trump squeezed her butt in 2006 when they were backstage at the “Late Show with David Letterman.” 

  • Jessica Drake, an actor in adult films, accused Trump during a 2016 news conference of grabbing her, kissing her without her consent and offering her $10,000 to come to his penthouse hotel room in 2006. 

  • Summer Zervos, a former contestant on “The Apprentice,” told reporters at a 2016 news conference that Trump sexually assaulted her on two separate occasions in 2007. The first was when she met him and he kissed her on the lips. Later that year, Zervos said Trump grabbed her shoulder, kissed her “aggressively,” placed his hand on her breast and thrust himself on her before she was able to pull away and leave the room. 

  • Cassandra Searles, a former Miss USA contestant, wrote in a 2016 Facebook post that Trump “continually grabbed my ass and invited me to his hotel room” when she competed in 2013. 

If you've read this far, hopefully the similar stories make it obvious what kind of creep Trump is around women.

He isn't in jail, because every woman that comes forward is doubted instead of compared to all the rest that came before them.

That is why predators like him and the others I listed keep doing it: they've created an environment in which they can always get away with it no matter how many people come forward.

https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/

[–] zero@fek.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (9 children)

All these guys got a pass for quite some time, all because they worked on having an image so pure the public would defend it for them. Trump has entire news stations doing that for him.

Yes but Trump does not have an image so pure and he has gotten away with it... so far.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Rich. White. Male. All privileges.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world -5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

There is nothing on this earth that will get me to side against you quicker, than being racist and sexist. Cut it the fuck out.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world -4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Youre right. Clearly, with Diddy being a piece of rapist and sex trafficker as well. That means all straight black men are... I mean, thats your logic, right? And all those trans porn stars, rubbing one out in bathrooms. I guess if we use your logic, everyone is right about trans people and bathrooms... right? God forbid Donald Trump is just a sick fuck, and being white and straight has fuck all to do with it...

Fuck your bigotry.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You don't seem to understand what privilege is, because this response is a complete non-sequitur. They in no way said that white men are all predators. They said it was ignored because he was a rich white man. And that first one is pretty important (but also not the only one of import).

As a fellow white man, stop being so sensitive and listen to what's actually said. I guarantee you can deal with the concept of having privilege without needing to feel like that's an attack on your personhood or whatabouting that bad things can also happen to us.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I know exactly what it is, a term made up by cunts to put the blame for the actions of few onto the shoulders of many. The same gaggle of cave brained cunts who saw a black man selling drugs on Hill Street Blues and decided all black guys sell drugs.

And not for nothing, youre not a fellow anything to me. You take the dogshit spread like a virus on social media and call it progress. I see for it is. A stream of buzzwords made up to get clicks, likes, shares and subscribes and to take away voices that you dont agree with. "Youre white, you dont get an opinion." Why, oh, why, does that sound so familiar...

Fuck your bigotry and self hate. Go peddle that nonsense to twitter users who eat up whatever nonsense they're told to think.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, continue being a whiny little snowflake mad at the world for words you still don't understand. You seem young and immature and hopefully you'll get centered and grow out of it.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, always the same with your type. "Snowflake", because pointing out racism, sexism and general bigoty is just "being a snowflake".

You seem like a racist, sexist, bigot. Who looks at someone, then decides that everyone else like them is the same person. And then applies words to that group to demonise them. You are the thing you hate. And the character assassination in the world, isnt gong to change what you are. A bigot.

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