Freedom of belief is not an absolute right, nor is it a suicide pact. You do not have to tolerate people who want to destroy you, even if they claim they want to destroy you because god told them so. The Paradox of Tolerance is in full effect; To protect tolerance ideologies that are intolerant must be controlled, suppressed, or destroyed. It doesn't matter if they're secular, religious, or a secret third thing. Christian Fascists don't get any kind of pass because they're a religion. The same goes for Wahhabism, Hindutva, and similar ideologies that do not play well with others.

Contrast with mainline Protestants, some Secular Islamic states, and prior tolerant Hindu governments that weren't hell bent on exterminating the Muslim and non-Hindu minority.

You have every right to believe whatever the fuck you want but when you turn it in to a political movement and start harming others you are responsible for your actions.

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's not blasphemy, evangelicals and fire and brimstone lutherans are on a spextrum from unforgivable heresy to cherry picking assholes. Southern fire and brimstone christianity is a bizarre and often heretical abberation that was carefully culled to produce a religion that unquestionably supported slavery and white supremacy. I don't think my catholic priests growing up every mentioned hell, although honestly i wasn't paying much attention. Hell and punishment aren't that important in a lot of christian sects, but for many americans "christianity" means evangelical fascism.

Honestly from what I've read the catholics over the last few decades have been kind of cagey on whether anyone even goes to hell. It's just not that important these days.

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

it was tounge in cheek but yes, that sounds nice. I just meant to say that this all sounds so bizarre to me. not just my upbringing but every book movie personal encounter with other types of christian is telling me otherwise. But I know my personal experiences are probably not worth very much and yall are probably right. I would say that in a lot of black majority christian countries the hell fire and brimstone seems alive and well. like ive been to places that make American evangelical Christians all look like progressive safe havens. But yeah i would love to live in a world where i wasn't regularly told im going to hell.