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Also, can we please agree that is really poor netiquette to downvote posts in communities you are not subscribing to? If you are not subscribed to a community, you should have no saying whether the content is relevant to the community or not.
Instead of downvoting, hide posts you don't want the content on your feed or report it if is actually improper content. Downvoting things just because you saw it on /all is counter-productive and hostile af.
No. Some communities I don't want to see regularly, but I know how the community works.
And your solution to that is browsing by /all?
I think it's a habit carried over from reddit's algo, which would rank communities you downvote as less likely to be shown to you. People don't really understand how the /all algo works on lemmy (which as I understand it is just the most recently interacted things on the network, blatted out of a hose?)
It is 100% a bad habit inherited from Reddit, and this is one of the many reasons that I wish Fediverse developers stopped trying to emulate the closed platforms and started using ActivityPub as a powerful social graph to be shared by a single client.
I think it might be too early in the life of the fediverse to completely dispense with the underlaying concept - we've only barely gotten enough users to have unique-to-lemmy content - but it's an interesting article & a similarly interesting take. Certainly something should be done to increase new communities 'discoverability' to the broad userbase. The current
/allalgo is already a huge improvement over the very early days, so there's probably value in developing the idea further (including potentially adopting that social graph idea, though implementation would be... difficult, while maintaining the decentralized control the fediverse was explicitly designed to have)Phanpy (a client for Mastodon) is showing that we can have the customization and discoverability happening in-device. Decentralization would improve if we stop relying on this platform-centric approach and started building on generic ActivityPub servers.
Anyway, sorry for the tangent. I feel like that this generation of developers just keep making the mistakes from the past when they could instead learn from the elders.
Nah it's a genuinely interesting tangent, and I do agree that there's a great deal still to be done to really get the most out of AP as a protocol. I worry that adoption for non-platformed methods of interaction would be extremely low, just because of the increased barrier to entry. Part of the reason I'm on Lemmy instead of finishing my own AP browsing application is just the time investment that I'm unwilling to put in, and as customization goes up the time cost of configuring your setup similarly increases. But I do agree that there's a better solution than what we have now.
Huh, I browse Subscribed regularly, All I don't? When a post doesn't belong in a community I know (ie regardless of subscription status) I vote down.
You took my comment way too literally, then. What I am asking is for people that browse by /all to stop downvoting everything they see, as if there were trying to train some algorithm.
This can't be real?
What? That people browse by /all and downvote everything they don't like? You can bet that this is standard practice. I've argued with a good number of people who treat the /all feed just as a regular feed and feel completely justified in downvoting anything they don't personally like.
Take a look at these and tell me if these people are down voting because they are interested in the community or they are just trying to bury posts they don't like:
https://lemvotes.org/post/communick.news/post/3897488
https://lemvotes.org/post/communick.news/post/3839154
https://communick.news/post/3822175
There is no evidence for algorithm-based voting and those are mostly controversial posts which discuss the very acceptance of LLMs into a program, ie there is no guarantee that they belong into the respective community.
I didn't say "algorithm-based" voting. I said "people vote on anything they don't like, as if they would be training some algorithm".
The posts are about Emacs packages for using "AI agents" posted on the Emacs community. People are downvoting them only because "AI is bad", not because they particularly care about Emacs or the package at hand. It's an idiotic, self-righteous reason to downvote an article and it clearly shows that the people doing it have no relation to the communities where they are being posted.
I meant my request to mark the community as NSFW is being downvoted, which I understand.
I downvote the post only if the mod just removes my request, which I think is mod abuse.
Then block the community, report to the admin if the community is not respecting the instance rules and carry on with your day. Downvoting is just some passive-aggressive way of expressing your disapproval for the tastes/interests of the community members.
You’ll find that admin == mod == post OP in a lot of these cases
One more reason to just block the community or even the instance.