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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Theocrats want democracy to fail.

They want what they want. A theocrat with a popular majority is perfectly happy to government democratically, so long as they're free to do as they please between elections.

god will grant them supremacy.

One of the great failures of American democracy has been the conflation of electoral success with Divine Will.

We've turn election season into the Mandate of Heaven rather than the Will of the People. Consequently, politicians have become more and more removed from their voting base and more dogmatic and superstitious in their beliefs and behaviors.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I grew up in churches that eventually went full MAGA. A LOT of them want a literal theocracy where 'gods law' is the law of the land. They also believe political leaders are put in place by either god or the devil. The conflation of divine will is biblical as far as they are concerned.

They also have a cultural agenda of raising people to participate and influence politics.

The real failure is the inability to prevent the church from re-taking over the state.

This is the catholic church all over again... just with teen pageant models instead of choir boys.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The real failure is the inability to prevent the church from re-taking over the state.

The mistake is in assuming churches weren't running the state to begin with. This goes back to the 1950s Cold War Era, where "Being Religious" was part of the litmus test for being anti-Communist. What we've seen over the post-Cold War Era was an attrition of Christian religious fervor (and a general New Atheist backlash to non-Christian religions) that's forced once prolific congregations to consolidate control in order to secure their little theocratic fiefdoms across rural America.

But they never really lost power to begin with. They only lost popularity.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

America was colonized on the principles of not being taxed by a king and not being told how many wives you can have by a pope.

The separation of church and state was a lofty ideal, but never a realistic one given who moved to America.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

America was colonized on the principles of ~~not being taxed by a king~~ genocide of native peoples and ~~not being told how many wives you can have by a pope~~institutionalized slavery .

But otherwise, sure. I agree.