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[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

WTF is wrong with that? My neighbors have 0 rights to do what happens on my property.

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You live in a society. You only "own" property because enough of your neighbors agree that you do. Society gets together and agrees on the rules, and by being part of that society you agree to the rules. If you want to live somewhere with minimal rules, then go ahead and do it. Just don't come crying to the rest of us when your new neighbor decides to do something that makes your land uninhabitable and worthless.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

WTF is wrong with that?

While you're correct on this pushback...

My neighbors have 0 rights to do what happens on my property.

This is the contention that drives the fallacy that we need strict zoning laws and HOA's. In most places in the world that don't have these kinds of strict rules, neighborhoods tend to follow community standards held by the community itself. You have markets and food vendors and small businesses mixed into your community which lets people socialize, walk around and meet each other and not have to drive everywhere for everything all the time.

You aren't pounding on your "rights" as a homeowner there, you're abiding by the sense of community and trying to be a part of something bigger than yourself so everyone is happy. This is why not everyone opens a scrapyard and why your neighbors aren't worried you're going to open a scrapyard, because there is a social pressure because people actually care.

In the US and other "developed" places, people are scared that their neighbors are going to stand on their "Rights" to do whatever the fuck they want because they don't know their neighbors and their neighbors don't care if they piss off everyone on the street by opening a crocodile petting zoo. Which is how we got HOA's and laws that dictate what you can and can't do on your property.

Fear. It's all fear, all the way down.