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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

According to wikipedia he's a eugenics enjoyer. Another W for nominative determinism I guess.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Hey come now, it is a common Dutch last name. Don't slander Dutch people who are called boer (farmer) like that. Do it for the right reasons. We all suck, no matter our last names.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Wasn't the original designation of Boers (as in the Boer war) a denigrating term?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

No idea. Prob best to check wikipedia for that. Could be last names, could be occupation, could be some denigrating term.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 3 points 16 hours ago

Looks like it's an endonym, or was at the time. OFC the reason for the Great Trek was that the boers were pissed they couldn't have slaves anymore while under British rule. Charming people all around.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Oof, thanks for the heads up!

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Explains his gushing over Scott in the intro.

I still think he makes a lot of good points in that promptfondlers are losing their shit because people aren't buyin the swill they're selling.

In a similar vein, check out this comment on LW.

[on "starting an independent org to research/verify the claims of embryo selection companies"] I see how it "feels" worth doing, but I don't think that intuition survives analysis.

Very few realistic timelines now include the next generation contributing to solving alignment. If we get it wrong, the next generation's capabilities are irrelevant, and if we get it right, they're still probably irrelevant. I feel like these sorts of projects imply not believing in ASI. This is standard for most of the world, but I am puzzled how LessWrong regulars could still coherently hold that view.

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/hhbibJGt2aQqKJLb7/shortform-1?commentId=25HfwcGxC3Gxy9sHi

So belieiving in the inevitable coming of the robot god is dogma on LW now. This is a cult.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Also note the standard error that people make (Which Rationalists talk about but people also never seem to internalize) Scott is wise and knowledgeable, until we get to a thing DeBoer knows about, and then it suddenly is strange and out of place. But the wise and knowledgeable thing doesn't get revalued, which considering the complaint about Scott is a bit of a lack of selfawareness moment. Almost like something that looks like it is written in wise and knowledgeable and pleasing way doesn't have to be that. Anyway, sorry for the sidetrack we were talking about genAI and this is not relevant to that.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 2 points 7 hours ago

Gell-Mann amnesia.

[–] BigMuffN69@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I feel ya, I got got by that Sam Kriss piece dunking on hpmor last week.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 2 points 7 hours ago

Could be worse, I got got by some neofascist scum who was dunking on rationalists.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I was thinking about that in reaction to something else. Anytime somebody casually brings up chrischan (she has been a decades long stalking/harassement target) should have been a bit of a red flag.

(E: not blaming people for missing that btw, it just stood out to me).

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never trust a guy with a substack

[–] mlen@awful.systems 5 points 23 hours ago

I'm waiting for the day substack puts RSS access behind a paywall. Unfortunately some decent blogs are still on that platform