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All meat-eaters are nazis (sopuli.xyz)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Muaddib@sopuli.xyz to c/veganism@sopuli.xyz

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What do they know-all these scholars, all these philosophers, all the leaders of the world - about such as you? They have convinced themselves that man, the worst transgressor of all the species, is the crown of creation. All other creatures were created merely to provide him with food, pelts, to be tormented, exterminated. In relation to them, all people are Nazis; for the animals it is an eternal Treblinka.

Isaac Bashevis Singer

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[–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Amen to all that.

If a herd of cows is well cared for and leads a happy life? And if they're one day killed painlessly, and then feed hundreds of people?

I'm not qualified to make blanket statements of ethics. Especially when some people live in parts of the world with little arable land, but many grasses that ruminants can eat and digest.

I used to eat a lot of meat. I used to not give much thought to where the meat came from. Both those things have changed as I've learned more.

I can't change the thousands of years of cattle being bred for meat and dairy. But I can choose to avoid factory dairies that treat cows inhumanely.

Should fewer cows exist in the world? Should humans create fewer cows? Yes.

But they do exist. We can't instantly change that. And some will be used for meat, we also can't change that. So we start by trying to make more intelligent decisions, reducing society's exploitation of meat animals, and helping people understand why this is good.

Obviously this has to do with more than cows, that's just one example.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

But they do exist. We can’t instantly change that. And some will be used for meat, we also can’t change that. So we start by trying to make more intelligent decisions, reducing societies exploitation of meat animals, and helping people understand why this is good.

Exactly this. If our choices are keeping our personal moral purity or reducing harm to minimize animal suffering and destruction of nature, I obviously choose the latter. Who cares about what's wrong or right over trying to actively stop this ecological disaster we're doing? Eating meat is socially acceptable right now, do we like it or not. Getting people to side against that is an uphill battle that won't be won by being actively hostile about it.