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New Hegseth Leak Reveals Secret Plan for Years of Troops on U.S. Streets
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Usually this form of dictatorship falls pretty quickly.
Wish I had your optimism. It takes work to pull the fucking grubby mitts of authoritarians out of the machine, it doesn't always happen automatically.
The bigger issue is that even if this does collapse quickly, the damage is largely done. Who knows how much data and accumulated years of knowledge are gone, to say nothing of all the agencies and policies that are just burnt to the ground. It took DECADES to get the EPA to even a level that was largely useful. Even if we come out the other side of this, it'll be in a radically changed form, possibly not even as the United States. I can very easily see a power vacuum and federal collapse from the fact that the federal government, aside from the actual levers of power like the judiciary and the military, is just a skeleton now.
Frankly I could see far worse than federal collapse, as in I wouldn't be surprised if some areas devolved into city states at best. The economy is rat fucked to the point where anything coming out the other side that isn't already exceptionally robust is unlikely, which basically is a list of the Western states, North East, and the Mid West Ohio not withstanding.
That's what the billionaires want, billionaires can own city-states.
I feel like they're missing the fact that most of them will be wholly irrelevant if USD collapses remember most of them hold their wealth in stocks and the ones who don't have no practical way of enforcing their power. They aren't the patricians of the late Western Roman empire who were both oligarchs and generals with loyal house troops, they are closer to the Italian city state patricians chucking around mercenaries and backstabbing.
They own enough other shit to survive a dollar collapse, they buy up everything they want on the cheap.
Yeah how'd that work for the Romans in the East when the Visigoths, Franks, and Ostrogoths ripped apart the West and the Easts investments collapsed. You are assuming that American society holds up in any practical way, I don't think it will I think the USD will be worth only as much as it's good for toilet paper. The US economy is too weak as a whole to support itself if it faulters anytime soon, everything is top down and much like a top heavy ship itll flip and sink.
Not if they're dead.
An actually competent government could get the EPA kicking ass, fast. It's absolutely doable. The same group that's motivated enough to fix shit would be likely to keep going and undo damage as fast or faster than it was done.
Talk about plans and options everybody.
Plus the people who are suppose to protect us the people only want to protect the lesser majority that likes to hate, because the protectors are haters also.
It takes a mere handful of decades.
This is the reality (look at Russia for those in denial).
uh, I'm looking at belarus
There's still a good chance he chickens out and holds actual elections this mid season and in 3 1/2 years.
We'll find out either way.
Not sure they'll matter. The only party viably able to unseat some of the Republicans right now is shit on by the right, left, and center daily. Meaning the odds that people will show up in droves during a midterm to vote for them is minimal. And when the Republicans hold the Senate, they'll get Roberts, Thomas, and Alito to retire and Trump to replace them with far right justices who owe their lifelong cushy jobs to those Republicans. So we'll have ~16 years of Republican support in the Judicial branch all but guaranteed. When 33% of the government is owned by a party, all they have to do is secure 1 half on Congress and they can prevent the country from moving left.
The last administration "led" with 50% majority control of the government. This one leads with 100% majority control. It won't be easy to come back from.
And its being shit on because the repubs and their russian bot farms are pushing the narrative. We need to still vote and not give in.
And because democrats still vote with republicans to provide more weapons to the genocidal state if isnotreal, when they could simply use the opposition to at least look like they'd fight for what is right, even if they can't change it. But they wouldn't even drop their Zionist buddies for the show.
So you refused to stop this already and now that the wheels are coming off your takeaway is to double-down that Democrats bad because “if isnotreal”.
Cool.
Look I don’t know what platform you’re avoiding being banned from by not saying “Israel” but this and your “Zionist buddies” language plus the Democrats-suck-lets-help-trump-some-more tells me all I need to know. Unless of course you have some plan that’s more than “shit on the Democrats”. Do you?
Yeah. That much is obvious.
I am calling it Inotreal because isREAL suggests that they have legitimate claim there. Those are white people colonizing Palestine.
To your second point, I didn't do anything to stop that, because I am not american. But my point is that as long as there is no difference in policy between democrats and republicans, why should people care who wins? And yes, I understand that for you the stock market or relationships to other countries (that did now suffer) might be the most important, but some americans have family in the middle east, and to them the most important topic is the genocide in Palestine. If democrats refuse to provide an alternative on that matter, you'll never get those people to vote for them.
Even if everything changes Democrats are very good at doing nothing. Not to mention the amount of damage already done and the decades it would take to fix it.