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It's become somewhat of a meme now when there is a story on crime, or other bad things happening in a city, people pipe up and say "That's how it is in blue cities!" "This could only happen in a Democrat city!" However, I noticed they never say "... and that's why only want to live in X" or "... that would never happen in Y".

If living in "blue cities" are such a nightmare, where are all these Utopian "red cities" that people are apparently in favor of?

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[–] emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (14 children)

To people from small towns, everyone in a city is 'wealthy', they must be to afford the insane cost of living right? But thats part of the problem. They don't realize the people spending $2500 a month on rent are spending 80% of their paycheck, or that they can't build any savings or eger hope to own a house or even a car because of it. They make no distinction between the actual rich people who live in cities and everyone else, and the state of America right now IS them fighting back against the 'rich'. Until these people understand the orders of magnitude the people actually fucking us are over the rest of us i don't know what can be done. To them anyone with a college degree is a wealthy elite.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (11 children)

This post hits in a way I hadn't quite figured out to myself. No wonder they still buy into the welfare queen thing. I've got to think on this a bit, woke me to a thing I hadn't considered.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago (10 children)

To expand on what @emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com is saying, I live rural because I don't make enough to live in the city. My town is rapidly gentrifying and I might not afford to live next to cows any more pretty soon. City folk spend more on rent than I make in a month.

A lot of our 'welfare queen' perspective is colored by the fact that tax-funded services are usually concentrated in the city. I keep petitioning my county transit authority for better rural bus service, but the best they can do is make the city bus lines run every 15 minutes instead of every half an hour. Meanwhile, I'm paying uber $50 just to get to a doctor's appointment and wait to catch a ride home when a friend gets off work. Food costs more for worse quality in rural areas, so food stamps don't go as far as they would in the city. Welfare in the city feels like you could live like a queen off it. It's not entirely true, because the amount you get is scaled to income, but per dollar, you do get more for your welfare in cities.

There's also that city dwellers can get really nasty about rural folk. I've never voted for a republican in my life, but living out here makes people assume the worst of me. I get told that living rural means I'm a bootlicking hick that's too stupid to know what's good for me, so it's hard to sell that they deserve sympathy and we don't.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

fwiw if you haven't done so already you could suggest a public transport taxi system, we have that here in sweden for rural areas and it works okay. Waaaaaaay cheaper to operate than actual bus routes, and it means everyone has some service even if it's pretty shitty.

basically the public transport org just operates taxis that run at set hours, and you can order a ride between any rural address and one of a list of select places in the city. It costs the same as any other public transport operated by the pt org and if multiple people in roughly the same area book within the same time slot then they use a minibus and collect everyone in one run.
You order the ride X hours in advance (in our case 1 hour) and when booking you get a specific time when you should be ready to get picked up.

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