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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

All completely correct, but compared to today's Nazis, Hitler's NSDAP still had some socialist elements. Not that this was much more than propaganda, but in the Third Reich there were indeed housing estates and holiday resorts for workers, state job creation measures such as the massive expansion of motorways (mainly needed for war purposes, of course) and the like.

Of course, the NSDAP was anything but a party concerned with the interests of the population, but even the few "socialist" measures imposed by Hitler's regime have been completely abandoned by today's Nazis.

What I mean is that today's Nazis, especially the US variety, are actually almost worse because they are purely neo-capitalist fascists - in this sense, they can really only be called Nazis (National Socialists) to emphasize their ideological proximity to the inhuman Hitler regime - but there are actually no socialist elements left in their political programs whatsoever, not even a hint (same goes for the AfD, a unfortunately quite prominent neo-nazi party in today's Germany).

Besides all the hate and racism, one thing they still have in common to this day is that they always pretend to be "defending" the interests of the working class or socially disadvantaged groups (if they fit their heinous racial ideology, of course) - but today that's even less true than it was in Hitler's day.

[–] ToxicWaste@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

all correct. but to be fair: not even the left of that time actually cared about the working class.

the ideologically motivated for sure, pretty sure you would have found them on the extreme right too - somewhere. but the regimes, which sprung out of any ideology of that time cared nothing than in propaganda for working people and the weak.

nowadays it is difficult as well, to find any social security better than lip service and improvement of statistics.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That may be true, but what I can say is that people in Germany are much better off today, much, much better - if you have even a modicum of common sense, it's incomprehensible to me how this shit can still be going on today.

[–] ToxicWaste@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

not arguing against that. just pointing out that regimes of that time used to do a lot of talking, if it comes to taking care of their people. not that much of doing.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

And you are absolutely right to emphasize this, precisely because the lessons of history seem to have been forgotten in the US, Germany, and elsewhere in the world: Think for yourself, inform yourself independently and according to comprehensible, objective criteria (which is entirely possible today, unlike in the past), and do not believe politicians unquestioningly - no matter what "coleur" they might come in.

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