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[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago (37 children)

The comments here are a good example of how the gun control movement is the left-wing counterpart to the pro-life movement. It's origin lies in emotion, not reason. It's filled with fallacious arguements and when that fails to convince someone, the movement tends to move towards snarky comments and outright hostility.

Evem those that are trying to be reasonable by drawing conclusions based on data almost always are using cherry-picked statistics that was fed by those trying to manipulate them.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

It's very amusing to read such things from outside the American hellscape. Well, "amusing."

Let's say eventually there comes a government overreach that a popular armed uprising puts down. Every day until that day, children die. Accidental death from firearms is one of the leading causes of death of children in your country. (Do you feel that pricking sensation in your neck and face or are you immune to shame?) If the rebellion doesn't come soon enough (or at all) then you are underwater in terms of dead children. So, how long is that runway? How long do you get to keep killing children until you have to admit, fuck, this is costing us more than it's worth?

HAVE YOU EVEN DONE THE MATH, or are you just working from feelings?

[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

While preventable child deaths are obviously terrible, I feel like this could be overextended.

Like, how many child deaths has McDonald's caused vs guns. I'm too lazy to do the math like the other guy, but I'd presume it's comparable. (Although I suppose by the time it catches up to them they're no longer children.)

Idk, you see things like, "leading cause of death in children" and it makes the number seem huge, but it's less than 100 kids a year. And it looks like around 400/yr die from drowning in swimming pools. So if we really care about the children, we should bad swimming pools? They kill 4x the number of kids than guns.

I'm not saying guns are great. But using child deaths as part of the argument just feels like a great excuse to ban literally anything you just don't like.

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