"Rust's compiler prevents common bugs" So does skill. No offense to you, but, this trope is getting so tiresome. If you like the language then go ahead and use it. What is it with the rust crowd that they have to come acrosslike people trying to convert your religion at your front door?

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 11 points 2 days ago (8 children)

The really annoying part is all the people saying that you shouldn't like Rust because actually it's not magically bug free. Yeah, no shit. No one who touched Rust claims it lets you write bug free code. People like Rust because it's modern, fast, has great tooling, great documentation and really nice features like Traits and Algebraic data types. Memory and thread safety is just a bonus.

[+] cbazero@programming.dev -9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Ammm actually... ☝️🤓 most Rust evengalists claim that Rust prevents you from writing bugs

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Some bugs. I have never heard anybody remotely skilled in Rust claim that it prevents bugs in general.

Python prevents many classes of bugs too (compared to C++). And any statically typed compiler will prevent some bugs that Python allows. Not too controversial I hope. Of course, unlike Rust, Python is unsuitable for many C++ use cases for other reasons.

I do not use Rust and my self-image is not tied to C++. So I do not have to get upset when people explain the benefits of Rust.

Rust is not perfect. That is why I do not use it. But it is not some elaborate lie either. It was designed to do certain things, and it does.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's hard to argue with that statement. Like, literally, I have no idea who rust evangelists are, where to look for them and how to find out what "most" of them think about anything.

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Yep - I don't really know who these evangelists are either. I have read about "fearless concurrency," which seems pretty spot-on.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Any type safe language will help you prevent a wide range of bugs that non safe languages need tons of tests to detect.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We're talking about memory safety here, though.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Same argument though, just a different value for the topic.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Agreed. The C++ guys are basically JavaScript guys arguing that type safety errors are a skill issue. They must hate TyoeScript.

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