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[–] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 59 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You know, I said a similar thing about Brexit. To a British person. In their face. While being way less intoxicated than I care to admit. And she replied a thing that still resonates with me to this day. She said that I have to remember that there were a significant number of people who didn't vote Leave, and they're now being fucked over as well. They didn't want that, they didn't vote for that, and yet they still have to live with the consequences. And leaving the country is not an option for most people.

Remember that when you talk about what "y'all Texans" voted for. Have some empathy and compassion for the people that did the right thing and still have to live through this shit now. Learn from my mistake.

It's been, idk, six years or something since, and I still cringe at least once a week thinking about how ignorant I was. Never had/took the chance to apologize either.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago

If Britain had reentered the EU, began to stabilize, and voted to Leave a second time, the analogy would be fair. But as it is, Americans that voted for trump or didn't vote on morality reasons, had ALL of the evidence, and consequently I think deserve to be reminded of that. In my experience people that voted Blue are pretty happy to share that and jump of the "Have the day you voted for" train.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how much, if any, this applies to Brexit, but Trump 2 was also the result of the inaction, complacency and outright complicity of plenty of people who "did the right thing." This goes way beyond the fascists, so I'm still pretty comfortable saying Americans did this to themselves.

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People love to have a reason to look down on other people.

It is practically an animal instinct, it is an effect of our hard wired tribalism.

Your comment is pretty telling that you are just as influenced by this.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -3 points 2 days ago

No, I've just thought about the trajectory America is on for more than five seconds, so I put the "did the right thing" bar higher than voting blue. The self-defeating stupidity and willful ignorance of most of the "good" half of the American political spectrum leaves very little room for sympathy. For the exact same reason that MAGA thinking everything they don't like is a liberal hoax isn't an excuse for their stupidity, the liberal center thinking everything they don't like is a Russian conspiracy isn't an excuse for their stupidity. I mean hell, did you see how people here were talking about Uncommitted in 2024? That's not "doing the right thing;" that's being a useful idiot, and there's not much reason to distinguish between blue useful idiots and red useful idiots. I do feel bad for the non-idiots, but the past year and a half have proven that that demographic is distressingly small.

[–] Azteh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

If I remember correctly, a lot of people just didn't vote, which means the people who did vote to stay just got screwed that much harder

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

I think it's implied that this is targeted at people who voted Trump. Of course I feel bad for the people who voted Harris, but now have to deal with the same bs. Same thing for Brexit. At least that is how I understand it.