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A video that captured the brutal arrest of a Black college student pulled from his car and beaten by officers in Florida has led to an investigation and calls for motorists to consider protecting themselves by placing a camera inside their vehicles.

The footage shows that William McNeil Jr., 22, was sitting in the driver’s seat, asking to speak to the Jacksonville deputies’ supervisor, when authorities broke his window, punched him in the face, pulled him from the vehicle, punched him again and threw him to the ground.

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 94 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

This kind of police brutality needs to be a capital offense. We need to start hanging these pigs. Abusing your authority to this level is a crime on the level of treason. You absolutely deserve to die if you do this to another human being.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Start with taking away their qualified immunity...

[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The death penalty might be a bit extreme, however, I am in favour of a dystopian tournament where these cunts have to face a series of increasingly dangerous tasks in order to be provided with food.

Could call it Pig Game.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How is it extreme? They have literally beaten black people and minorities to death for years. But if you want to kill one single cop for doing this it is all of a sudden too extreme? Wtf.

[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yes. I think the death penalty is barbaric and would make us as bad as they are. Better to either educate, or lock em up and throw away the key, so they can spend the rest of their lives regretting their actions. Preferably in an dystopian pig game scenario as a warning to everyone else.

[–] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Tattoo their previous police badge to their forehead, throw them into three general population, and call it a day.

[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The government should not take away anything that it cannot provide. It can't make life so it should not take it.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Normally I would agree however in this situation a government official took a life so it's the government self cleansing.

That's a really concise formulation of my own beliefs on this matter. My opinions on how society should handle justice are experiencing extended renovations, so it's useful to stumble across complex ideas distilled so effectively. Thanks!

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

While I agree that this should be a severe offence that removes the perpetrator permanently from any employment from city to federal, killing people just brings you down to their level.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have no problem holding police officers to a higher standard of behavior than the general populace.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A higher standard and the death penalty are two very different things.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you dont wanna die dont beat innocent people, doesnt seem hard.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

I get that, but I also don't like the government deciding who lives and who dies. It's too error-prone and corruption-prone for me to be comfortable with that.

[–] Prime@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago

*non violent people

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So? They won’t come up to our level so we’ll just have to beat them at their level. We aren’t going to win this by playing by a set of rules they don’t have to follow.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

You aren't going to win by daydreaming about executing cops either.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I have long been a proponent for mandatory and severe sentencing guides/augments for public officials who violate their oath and duty.

So I agree with you whole heartedly.

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The death penalty is an abomination. No.

I get the sentiment, and share it to a large degree, but death penalty? WTF?

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The traditional penalty for treason is death by hanging, at best. This is treason against the most fundamental values of what our nation is supposed to stand for. If you do this kind of thing, you have committed an unforgivable offense against everything this nation is supposed to stand for. If you're a police officer that flagrantly violates someone's rights, you should hang for it. If you're a police officer that plants evidence on someone, you should hang for it. If you're a police officer that shoots an innocent person, you should hang for it.

I have zero problem with holding police officers to a much higher standard that regular citizens. They want to go around calling themselves "officer?" Fine. I have no problem holding them to a brutal system of military justice. Make them earn their titles for a change.

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago

I think you're misunderstanding me, I'm not disagreeing with how unacceptable, reprehensible and un-fucking-ethical police behaviour is: the Police suck and are, in many cases, an unfixable organisation.

I'm disagreeing with the death penalty.

The fact that it's traditional is entirely irrelevant and, at worst, an appeal to tradition.

End the death penalty.

[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And it shouldn't exist for the regular citizen. But those we imbue with power should be held to a higher standard. There should absolutely be harsher, even stark penalties for those that abuse the power we imbue them with.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

...why? What purpose does it serve?

[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What purpose does holding those we imbue with power to higher standards serve? Look around at what the fuck happens when we don't and ask yourself that question again.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Holding them to higher standards would mean prosecuting their failures more. Like a ton more, that part is obviously needed. But the threat of death penalty does nothing but satisfy lust for revenge.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Whatever you believe the worst punishment we should give people is, be it death or life in prison, is what it should be.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's what it comes down to. It's not that I'm particularly pro-death penalty. Generally I'm not. But if you're going to have the death penalty for anything, flagrantly violating someone's civil rights should be right up there with murder in the list of eligible offenses.

[–] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hell, of anything, using one's position as a sworn elected or appointed government official to "flagrantly [violate] someone's civil rights" should be further up that list than murder. Again I say, tattoo their badge to their forehead and throw them in with GenPop.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

While I strongly agree that they should be held to a higher standard, I'm opposed to the government dealing out the death penalty for any infraction. And to using the prison population as a deterrent as well, satisfying as that would be - that reinforces the idea of prisoners as other than human, I feel.

But I want to emphasize again, we agree they should absolutely be held accountable - we just differ on what the punishment should be!

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not convinced you're asking yourselves the right question. Do you want revenge and punishment, or do you want a better society?

Don't get me wrong, the USA are so fucked up currently it's hard not to want to get back at those causing so much damage. I share that feeling.

But we know from evidence that prison as punishment just generates more violence and horror and doesn't create a better society. Prison as rehabilitation does a lot better towards that goal.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

Literally the same thing as the other person, whatever you believe the highest punishment should be, that's the punishment this deserves. If you're morally opposed to life in prison then whatever you think the longest amount of time should be.

At the very least an old school tar and feathering and run em out of town on a rail (watch the series John Adams if you ever thought tar and feathering was silly)