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[–] tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

On men being natural leaders, I've read that the stereotype of "men as hunters" is somewhat ahistorical when it came to actual hunter-gatherer societies. So it makes me wonder, when exactly did that idea come about?

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Victorians. They had a rather jacked up view of history

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

It's worse. Much worse than that.

It's the 1960s.

The 1966 books Man the Hunter is pretty much the origin story of the whole assumption of an evolutionary division of labor where males hunted as providers and females gathered and cared for children.

For a change we can't even blame the Victorians. We can blame the Age of Aquarius.

[–] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Why would anyone ever blame the Victorians for anything?

They brought us wonderful things such as steamships and child labour!

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 2 points 58 minutes ago

I know, it was a shock to me too. The people who originated most of the toxic "sciences" that put white men on top weren't actually to blame for an incredibly toxic faux-scientific theory. Very rare.

[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 3 points 8 hours ago

That's really interesting

[–] tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

The answer is usually around the Industrial Revolution, but I feel like this was way earlier.