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A video that captured the brutal arrest of a Black college student pulled from his car and beaten by officers in Florida has led to an investigation and calls for motorists to consider protecting themselves by placing a camera inside their vehicles.

The footage shows that William McNeil Jr., 22, was sitting in the driver’s seat, asking to speak to the Jacksonville deputies’ supervisor, when authorities broke his window, punched him in the face, pulled him from the vehicle, punched him again and threw him to the ground.

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[–] Iteria@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 hours ago (29 children)

I'd be interested to see if that ruling would apply with video evidence and no illegal fire arm or reasonable suspicion on the part of the officer. That case seems to uphold the idea of a search on the grounds of reasonable suspicion. That's not the case here.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 1 points 9 hours ago (28 children)

Here's the full bodycam footage. I was right about him failing to ID.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i88VDrI3VA

He commits a misdemeanor 21 seconds after the stop begins.

Cop: "Give me your driver's license, registration,"

Dude: "No."

Cop: "... and proof of insurance."

Dude: "No. Call your supervisor."

That "no" is enough to arrest him. Most cops won't do it, they'll have a conversation about it instead of just busting out the cuffs, but if you go out of your way to piss them off, sometimes they will not. We're past reasonable suspicion at that point. He pulled him over, explained the reason, and asked for ID, and the guy refused. This is an excellent way to get arrested, and refusing to cooperate with the arrest is an excellent way to get dragged out of the car and thrown around. IDK what the guy expected to happen. The only reason this is news is because the cop hit him in the face, but this was 100% a dude-created situation from start to finish.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

That "no" is enough to arrest him

Is that "no" enough to break his window, drag him from the vehicle, and assault him? You're defending your internal racism with flimsy DIY law. Get a degree my friend. Then you can talk.

[–] Darrell_Winfield@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It is possible for both sides to be wrong in this. It was wrong for the driver to fail to comply. It was wrong for the police officers to assault this man. Not everything is black and white (lol, except this is black and white race thing...)

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 5 points 8 hours ago

Completely agree. Yeah, it was definitely wrong for them to hit him in the face. Their whole job is to deal with people who are doing what they're not supposed to, without losing their shit in turn.

But yes, the initial cop was literally just doing his job, and Shouty McCanISpeakToYourSupervisor escalated it out of literally nowhere from his side, and then got apparently surprised when the cops' next move wasn't "Okay, well if he says 'no,' I guess we can't really do anything, free to go have a good day."

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