That's fair. But this was over 5 years ago, and it's gone down hill since then for them. I am all for optimism but aggressively against promoting naiveness

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Excellent! It is naiive to expect a cluster of protests to enact social change on their own, and especially to expect one day of protests to reveal progress in a frightened government.

However, real social change pushing against authoritarian regimes cannot succeed without a strong backing of unrest in the streets. Organized protests are the best form of this pressure.

Likewise, without organizing in civic policy at the local, regional, and federal levels, in a coherent or at least congruent manner, your protest is relegated from pressure to complaint.

You need all fingers and a thumb to make a fist.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

I don't know that they did, I am just remarking on the applicability of tactics and strategies broadly.

You can break up a friend group, or online discussion, or alliance between nation states, or a whole bunch of other things, if your general concept is to drive wedges into the cracks of any kind of 'group-thing' that you in some sense seek to defeat or influence.