this post was submitted on 03 Aug 2025
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You're implying the edge cases you presented are the majority being used?
No, and that's irrelevant. Their post is explicitly not about the majority, but about exceptions/edge cases.
I am responding to what they posted (I even quoted them), showing that the position that "there is no ethical use for generative AI" and that there are no exceptions is provably false.
I didn't think it needed to be said because it's not relevant to this discussion, but: the majority of AI sucks on all fronts. It's bad for intellectual property, it's bad for the environment, it's bad for privacy, it's bad for people's brains, and it's bad at what it's used for.
All of these problems are not inherent to AI itself, and instead are problems with the massive short-term-profit-seeking corporations flush with unimaginable amounts of investor cash (read: unimaginable expectations and promises that they can't meet) that control the majority of AI. Once again capitalism is the real culprit, and fools like the OOP will do these strawman mental gymnastics and spread misinformation to defend capitalism at all costs.
I used AI to scratch my balls once. I assume this counts as ethical.
I can get behind this clarification, so thanks for that.
I'm a realist. To that end, relevance is assigned less on the basis on pedantic deconstruction on a single post and more on the practical reality of what is unfolding around us. Are there ethical applications for generative AI? Possibly. Will they become the standard? Unlikely, given incumbent power structures that are defining and dictating long term use.
As with most things stitched into the human experience, gaming human psychology/behavioral mechanics are key to trendsetting. What the majority accepts is what reality re-acclimates to. At the moment, that appears to be mass adoption of unethical AI systems.
I don't disagree on these problems not being inherent to AI. But that sentiment has the same flavour as 'guns don't kill people' ammosexuals like to bust out when confronted.
Either way, it's clear you have a good read on what needs to happen to get all this to a better place. Hope you keep fighting to make that happen.
Yeah, agreed. But that's not what the OOP is saying in their post and their attitude and language makes me believe they're purposefully being wrong and outrageous for attention/trolling
Yeah, don't blame you for cracking the whip on hyperbole. Its good to have someone doing that to keep us sane.
What OOP is reacting to is the majority sentiment thats saturating the feed they're swimming through. It's a messy response, but the direction they're pointed in is generally correct - and a lot more aligned with your position than you might expect, despite fumbling the details.