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[–] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Scientology somehow managed to reach cult "escape velocity" and survive the death of its leader.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 15 points 9 hours ago (8 children)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Christianity as a religion generally started after the death and ascension of Christ.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

So you're saying it reached escape velocity and survived the death of its leader?

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 1 points 42 minutes ago

I agree with the other person that the JC fan club-cum-cult only became a real cult heading to religion after it had the sacrificial death to lean on.

The escape velocity was achieved not from the leader dying, as the martyrdom was the key factor long-term, but more so that it survived the core group of founders by being pliable. It wasn't the "message" per se, but the decentralized and un-professionalizing of the religion that made it so that anyone could practice it, and for less hassle and cost than existing religions. It reached escape velocity because the barrier to entry for outsiders to practice and become leaders was lower.

[–] mobotsar@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No, because Christianity wasn't really a religion in its own right until after Christ died. It didn't survive his death because it didn't exist yet.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 18 minutes ago

Most like a small cult or something you'd say?

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

The only difference between a "religion" and any other cult is its popularity.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Still a cult (or several) or why shouldn't it be? I don't know the exact definitions.

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