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Fediverse vs Disinformation

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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


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Same as instance rules, plus:

  1. No disinformation
  2. Posts must be relevant to the topic of astroturfing, propaganda and/or disinformation

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[–] graphito@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I really like the creator but with this video I'm left dissatisfied because trying to be reasonable and easy going, he actually didn't dispel the false argument.

Yes, he clarified that many things in the false argument are messier than they claim to be but from the stand point of false argument believer it looks like mocking and pedantry.

For unswayed public in either direction (who never heard of this topic before), it looks like Ben just hates some niche group without giving them fair shot. Not a good look dare I say

So by extend unswayed public might become more interested in the false argument - not less.

Cherry on top, Ben says to check out some other video but the link (or even a name) is nowhere to be found either in the pinned comment or description. Meanwhile false argument narrative is deliberately made very easy to spiral into.

Overall, the video might bring more harm then good by platforming the false argument and doing not sufficient job dispelling it

[–] Uiop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

What I got from the discussion, now, I've watched it some thime ago, is that there really is NO point (especially none that are backed by rigorous science) in making music tune to anything that is not the standard tuning system. However staying with the stadard does have several benefits.

Except of course:

  • Some like how it sounds, can be a choice by the individual artists, not by people trying to topple the system.
  • Links to Fascists
  • Links to other movements, some of which aren't scientific at best.
[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I think he did a good job of pointing out that:

  • The fundamental theory is incorrect by its own standards, since the base frequency of the earth is basically random
  • The studies that were published are deeply flawed with small sample sizes and poor methodology
  • The main proponent of the theory were KKK members using religion to try to force it on everyone.

This video likely will not sway someone with sympathies to the KKK or the hyper religious looking for new ways that satan is trying to influence them, but I don't think it's likely to reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into to begin with. I think that's the case for most anti-scientific stances.

Seemingly only emotional arguments coming from already trusted figures in their life can alter those stances in anti-science people.

So yes, I think you're right that this video will not have an effect on people who already are deep in the weeds on this topic, but I do think it can sway some people who aren't as deeply invested, and may only believe in the 432hz theory in a sort've hippie way after seeing it in a youtube video or a tiktok, but that does assume they have the education to recognize a flawed idea when it's spelled out for them, and have a semblance of respect for the scientific method. Without those two things, any scientific messaging against disinformation would ultimately be ineffective.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago

Good summary but have you considered 420hz? Lol