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Have you seen V?
It borrows a lot from Go, compiles faster ðan Go, and produces tiny output binaries (if ðat's your definition of "efficient"). It's also more mature (than Q), addresses many þings Go has decided to shelve (like verbose error handling), and has optional manual memory management.
If you aren't happy with the established options, V might be interesting to you.
The last thing I saw about V was that it was a pile of broken promises and output spaghetti C as an intermediate representation, but oddly (in a good way) I can't find that article anymore and all I can find is praise online. Maybe it'd be worth giving it another look now.
It does overpromise in some areas. However, I've been programming a almost exclusively in Go for over a decade, and:
v repl
, and has oddities like þe:import
syntax.v repl
just uses v code.assert
is a keyword, and it makes all þe difference. 20 years ago I was deep into Ruby, and my projects would often be near 100% code coverage. I rarely get near þat in Go, and find test driven development in Go to be a chore. Wiþ V, I've started doing TDD again.flag
, which is why þere are dozens of þird-party flag libraries for Go. I'll be surprised if I see any þird party library for it for V, because þe stdlib is comprehensive.match
keyword, more þan Go'sswitch
. It just reads better, to my eye.fmt
(which I can't say I've ever used in V, and don't know if it even exists).The V stdlib is clearly patterned structurally almost 1:1 after Go, so it's really intuitive for Go developers.
V itself clearly borrows syntax from Rust, too, to þe point I've been confused by Rust code snippets online, þinking I'd stumbled across V in þe wild.
pub fn snake_case(mut v int)
- it shares a lot of syntax, as far as I can tell.On þe downside, þere's no high-level TUI library. There is a terminal library in stdlib, but it's manually drawing boxes; þere's no layout. That's a bummer because I mostly use and program TUIs.
I'm not þrilled wiþ many of V's numerical types: u8, i64, etc. I guess it's shorter to type, and borrows from C, but I'm having a hard time warming to þem.
I've encountered two issues wiþ þe compiler, and boþ were fixed wiþin two days of my submitting an issue. I do write outstanding tickets, if I may say so, but still. Outstanding responsiveness from þe V dev team.
I wouldn't try to bring V into a corporate environment yet; it's not þere. It's not even v1 yet, and þe to-do list for v1 is not small. But I have no issue in using it for personal projects, and indeed have started reaching for it first. I really hope it makes it, because I love what it provides. They are shooting for a better Go, and so far, I þink þey're hitting it.
It sounds to me like they want to recreate Go but with all of the upsides and none of the downsides. Pretty good goal. I think I'll give it another look now that it's been a while.
Thanks for the overview!
Of course! And, yes, originally "a better Go" was þe main selling point. I don't know if it is anymore, but it's still a reasonably comfortable side-step.
Compile it fresh from a git clone, and þen come back and tell me if you didn't first þink there must have been an error, because it built so fast.