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“Jujutsu (jj) is a version control system with a significantly simplified mental model and command-line interface compared to Git, without sacrificing expressibility or power (in fact, you could argue Jujutsu is more powerful). Stacked-diff workflows, seamless rebases, and ephemeral revisions are all natural with jj [...]”

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[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

YMMV but I've found it much easier to manage complex workflows with jj compared

It is no secret that git's interface is a bit too complex - even XKCD has made fun of it.

But what is amusing is that people now have a kind of Stockholm Syndrome, and plain refuse to believe there could be something better.

(Perhaps motivated by the long list of half-assed helper interfaces and GUIs which just were hapless trying to hide the sprawling complexity).

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

But what is amusing is that people now have a kind of Stockholm Syndrome, and plain refuse to believe there could be something better.

Wow - way to just brush away any and all criticism as "that sounds like a you problem".

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

jujutsu changes a lot of the affordances to manage changes and I understand that many people will be reluctant to use such a changed interface - for one, after they have spent so much time with learning the git CLI, and also because there are dozens of alternative git UIs and VCSes which claim to offer something simpler.

But: jujutsu offers about similar power and flexibility as git, while requiring much less UI complexity. The proof for this is the much, much smaller amount of required documentation as well as practice before one can work productively with it.

All the changed elements give a very orthogonal and cohesive whole, which is very rare for software of that complexity.

Will this work for everyone? Probably not, that happens extremely rarely.

Will many people pick it up on a whim? No, change does not happen that way. In the ideal case, a kind of logistic function but adoption will be very unlikely to be as rapid as git's adoption.

Will experienced git users drop the work they have to do and spend half a day to try a new tool? Some do, and this is good. Some don't, and this is also good.

So, no, I don't have a problem. People have time and decide to look at something or they don't. Both is fine.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

jujutsu changes a lot of the affordances to manage changes and I understand that many people will be reluctant to use such a changed interface

You lost all credibility when you just blamed my criticism on "stockholm syndrom". Sorry buddy.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

BTW there are two configurations / new commands that could be helpful for you:

  • there is a configuration option (auto-track='none()', already mentioned by other commenterd here) to switch off auto-adding of new files
  • there is an alias command, tug that automatically advances branches / bookmarks to the current commit / change.
[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Oh, I was referring to people who do not want to believe at all there could be something easier to use than git. Probably not the best way to express this.

I don't know whether it fits your use case. You decide that.

Also, jujutsu is still immature and has many rough edges.

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