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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Agreed, which is why it's important to make ridiculing them less fashionable.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I don't know why you think that means we shouldn't ridicule conservative men as a whole. What counts for "conservative" now is actual fascism, not simply being bigoted or wanting deregulation. This is how MAGA "conservatives" themselves gatekeep things, so it's not like I'm painting with a broad brush.

If someone escapes the cult, I'm proud of them, but I'm not pulling punches on the tribe they used to be a part of.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I don’t know why you think that means we shouldn’t ridicule conservative men as a whole.

The activist class doesn't ridicule conservative men as a whole.

They ridicule men as a whole, and ignore that the crises facing men are not imagined nor hyperbole: they're real, and the only people acknowledging them or pretending to offer solutions are conservatives.

Ask yourself how likely you are to trust people who punch you in the face, and how silly it is to blame them when it's you who threw the punches and broke your hand.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The activist class doesn't ridicule conservative men as a whole.

They ridicule men as a whole, and ignore that the crises facing men are not imagined nor hyperbole

Just because so many men believe this doesn't make it true. I've had to hang out with men who believed similar things, and in my experience they had never actually met these activists they fear. Even when there are women who think that poorly of men, most of them aren't out there harassing random dudes. That sort of discourse is either targeted or terminally online.

The real failure of the left has always been offering salient narratives; catchy ideas that are convenient and empowering. Believing you're superior for the circumstances of your birth is easier than class consciousness. Accepting that certain arguments really did have no merit is harder than doubling down.

Men are treated like shit by conservative ideology; a belief system that leaves many of them behind completely and works every one of them to the bone for some mythical masculine glory. I have empathy for men, as they need to escape the conservative trap that'll chew them up and spit them out.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Believing you’re superior for the circumstances of your birth is easier than class consciousness.

Which party in the US is offering class consciousness as a platform? I think neither.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That is another huge problem. The left has better narratives than the liberals, but the libs do everything in their power to prevent the left from existing.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

But I think it's related. The average man does not see the left because of the liberal-conservative media monopoly, and you can't expect people to educate themselves with this education system.

So when choosing between liberals and conservatives, as they see this as their only choice, they choose the side that does not make memes like the OP.

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