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It’s important to talk about tribes and not just generalize to “Native Americans.” It’s like talking about “European” culture and implying that the French have the same culture as the Italians. Plains Indian culture ≠ Pueblo culture ≠ Salish culture ≠ Alaskan indigenous culture ≠ etc. Any generalization that flattens these groups to “Native American” is dicey at best.
The Zuni have lhamana, like We’wha. The Choctaw and Chickasaw have hatukiklanna/hatukholba (pronounced/spelled slightly differently but closely related). The Cherokee have asegi. I’m just listing off the ones I know off the top of my head; research the tribes local to your neck of the woods and learn about what they have.
Like I’m really mystified as to where your 9 is coming from. Also “had” - native Americans are still here ya know.
That's a nice comment, good information.
But like, the reason he generalises is probably because of the massive destruction of indigenous American culture that was perpetuated by European colonialism.
Thus we are very ignorant of all of the cultures. Which saddens me greatly. (I love shows and movies which use the native languages and portray the cultures when they're actually done well. I wonder how right they got the Kanien'kéha language that they're supposedly speaking as Mohawks, you can hear some in This clip - weirdly to me it sounds sort of like garbled and nasal Estonian being spoken for some reason)
You make a perfectly reasonable comparison that people rarely generalise to such a degree when it comes to Europe. But had like 95% of the culture and people's been erased and forcefully surpressed, then I think people would generalise to an extent. Not that it makes it okay in any way, just saying that ignorance is the cause of such generalisations usually.
Which is why comments like yours are so great, bringing the info that we haven't found (or even looked for.)
So keep up the good work! Thanks
I’m just really wary of the idea that indigenous people are “extinct” - the idea that their cultures are unknowable. The sentence “Native Americans had nine genders” is functionally meaningless.
Maybe it’s because I grew up going to powwows, but there still are separate and distinct cultures. A lot does get mixed in - fancy dance is a pan-Indian thing, for example, but there are still things specific to tribes, like the Seminole and their stomp dancing.
Native people are very much alive - Star Wars has been dubbed into Navajo, the state of Oklahoma just started graduating Cherokee teachers, the Choctaw nation has put out an app (I’d be legally Choctaw if my mom hadn’t lied about my dad lol). Heck, I am craving an alligator po’ boy from the Chickasaw cultural center right now!
Oh one more question.
I don't know if you speak Cherokee or know what it's supposed to sound like, but as I have no reference point, i trust your perception more in this. The clip I linked, do you think they got the language at all right?
Because sometimes I'll see big studios doing supposedly something in Finnish and it might just be garbled and then I'm like "really, with all the money you put into this you couldn't hire one fluent speaker?"
Cherokee and Kanyen’kéha are both in the same language family, but not the same language, so it probably wouldn’t help even if I knew Cherokee. But here is an interesting article about the language use in that clip.
Cherokee is common enough in parts of Oklahoma that there is street signage in Cherokee. It’s all over Tahlequah. Apple Maps will display town names in the Cherokee alphabet when you are in that area.
I was not aware. Thought it was worse. You've restored some faith in me. Thank you.
Also thank you for the article.
And a somewhat unrelated question, have you watched "Resident Alien"? They don't use natives languages but I like the show.