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Nearly nine out of 10 Israeli military investigations into allegations of war crimes or abuses by its soldiers since the start of the war in Gaza have been closed without finding fault or left without resolution, according to a conflict monitor.

Unresolved investigations include the killing of at least 112 Palestinians queueing for flour in Gaza City in February 2024, Action on Armed Violence (AOAV) said, and an airstrike that killed 45 in an inferno at a tented camp in Rafah in May 2024.

Also unresolved is an inquiry into the killing of 31 Palestinians going to pick up food at a distribution point in Rafah on 1 June.

They were killed after Israeli forces opened fire, witnesses said. Shortly after, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said the reports were “false” but the IDF told the Guardian that the incident was “still under review”.

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[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 25 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

Do you expect them to prosecute themselves? I don't even know what to say. I'm not shy of using strong language, but in this case I can't: my English is far from good enough to describe the intellectual profile of the people who expect Israel to prosecute their soldiers.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Do you expect them to prosecute themselves?

That is sort of how it’s supposed to work, yes. That’s how it’s supposed to work in any organisation.

A person doing a bad thing that gets reported should be investigated internally. They should take appropriate action based upon that investigation. The investigator(s) should be looking to protect the organisation by rooting out the bad apples.

Unfortunately, when too much of the barrel is bad the bad apples protect each other instead of the organisation.

In this case, so much of the organisation is bad that protecting the organisation requires that the bad apples be protected and shit gets covered up.

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

That is sort of how it’s supposed to work, yes.

It never worked this way. Ever heard about a thief who punished himself? Or a corrupted politician who closed himself in prison?
You're talking about some fairy-land stories with rainbow ponies where there is no evil anyway.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You're talking about some fairy-land stories with rainbow ponies where there is no evil anyway.

I realise that what I’m talking about isn’t working in the IDF but your analogies are not right.

The military isn’t one person who’s turning themself in. It’s an organisation of many people so nobody would be punishing themselves.

It’s like a cashier being caught stealing from the cash drawer. They don’t punish themselves, their employer punishes them and possibly reports them to the police for further punishment.

That’s how it’s supposed to work but isn’t in this case because the whole military is on the same page.

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 1 points 7 hours ago

Still you want a thief guild to punish a thief for stealing.

What is happening is happening because it was a governmental requirement. Not some crazy soldiers decided to shoot civilians for their own amusement and by their own will.

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