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Star Wars is about syncretic understanding of life and story and morality, - say, I'd trust a Star Wars fan who's not a humanities major to understand what anti-fascism is more than a humanities major who's not a Star Wars fan. I don't think I can describe it better than Lucas himself does, and he seems to have achieved the opening of his museum telling lots on the subject.
Star Trek I haven't watched enough to judge. But I think they are orthogonal, where Star Trek has idealism, Star Wars has life and chaos, and where Star Trek has philosophy, there Star Wars has just the story, and where Star Trek has neutrality, Star Wars has choice.
No, you can't call Star Trek idealistic, or at least you can't contrast it to Star Wars as more idealistic.
Star Trek is VERY cynical about the capacity of humans and other sentient species to do evil.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Star_Trek
Star Wars is far more idealistic, evil is about power and a cynical leaders that do anything to get more power... Star Trek has a consistently much more unnerving portrayal of evil as a much more nuanced force that is often irrational and difficult to resolve into pure pursuit of power that it is always attracted to it.
Star Wars has different kinds of evil. It has YV, it has Killick hives, it even has drug addicted sects. In any case that's not the meaning of the word "idealistic" I meant.