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Well, if white people as defined by a religion were consistently and routinely scapegoated, mass murdered, and made illegal in almost every country they settled in, maybe they’d have a case to make that they want a land where that can’t happen again.
I disagree it should be where they chose, I disagree it should be called Israel, I definitely disagree with pretty much everything they’ve done in the last two years and a hell of a lot of what they did prior to that. But I don’t disagree they have a right to exist and be left alone.
Thats why the meme doesn’t work for me, it’s not a real comparison in terms of why they want a land of their own. What they DO in that land, yeah fair enough but that’s a different meme.
I get the Likud are fascist shitheads who must be stopped and held to account for their crimes. But that’s not the same thing as saying there shouldn’t be a safe haven for Jews, which is what the meme implies.
If you want to see where Jews in particular are most safe you'll find it's where human rights are respected and all are treated equally under the law, regardless of skin colour or ethnicity. Racism never helped anyone, and it is certainly not helping now the Jews in Israel, occupied Palestine, or anywhere really.
You might be surprised to find out (not knowing where you'r from) that there were White abolitionists in America in the 1800's. Pretty nasty to read about what the White racists said and did to them, especially in the American South. Same (kind of, minus the tar and feathers... and lynching) now with Jews that protest Israel being called bad Jews or fake Jews or self hating Jews. It is not about the persons race, but there is definitely a word for when one thinks everyone of a certain race or ethnicity is a certain way.... what was it again... lol
You make it sound like that’s the default for humanity as opposed to almost the opposite as proven throughout all of history.
No one’s arguing racism is a good thing. I certainly am not.
I support the right of Jewish people to live in peace. I also utterly reject the idea of a nation-state with an established religion, it is an inherently terrible idea that cannot ever produce good outcomes, I mean lots of Jews aren’t even religious! Don’t even get me started on the flawed ideas and inherent racism behind an ethnostate.
So Israel as constituted can get fucked, it was always going to descend into a genocidal regime, it’s inherent in the way they built the government.