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[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Americans were like that during the Bush years. Illegal wars, torture, inept cronyism.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (12 children)

I kind of excused some of that due to societal PTSD from 9/11 but in retrospect around half of Americans just fucking suck.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

societal PTSD from 9/11

I feel 9/11 was less of a "we were struck by the ravages of war" and more of a "how dare they shoot back" event. If it was like the bombing of London by the Nazis, that makes most people reluctant to go to war instead of making war popular.

I mean, who looks at 9/11 and says "we want more of this"? Apparently most Americans?

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 9 points 20 hours ago

It was revenge for making Americans feel vulnerable. Two oceans and the world's strongest military made Americans feel safe from the world (and the effects of U.S. policies toward it). Even national humiliations like losing the Vietnam War were things that happened "out there." Domestic resistance to the invasion of Iraq often took the form of "Why Iraq when we should be going after the people responsible for 9/11 instead?" Resistance to the invasion of Afghanistan was much more muted for this reason. It was only later that everyone was always against both wars.

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